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Topic: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he? (Read 32946 times)
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Kevwood
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk wood,west,williams,morgan,sollars,hawker,snell,roach,clark,symons. In bristol,fremington,instow,rhymney,colyton |
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manmack
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caroline,all the crew apart from young joe burke came from quebec,joe burke was from new brunswick,i reckon if you put that in the quebec papers you will be successful,gerard dusablons real name was,joseph,lionel,underic du sablon,and arthur grouix is grouLx,i tried seeing if their ages would give a clue,but no chance,two were 20,two were 21,one was 22 and william,allison was 28,dont think its william,but it could be any of the rest,good luck caroline,ime another one rooting for you,mack
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manmack
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caroline,my moneys on the lad 1st right,definately,mack
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military history,mainly ww1,manchester pals battalions,tyneside irish +tyneside scottish brigades,leeds,liverpool,accrington,birmingham,hull,barnsley,swansea and salford pals.
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PrueM
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I agree with mack, the fellow on far right looks like a great match...although the first at left might also fit, possibly. Bit hard to tell, but definitely one of those two!
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (LND, Banff) - SWAN (Fife)
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dennford
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Grouix - Sgt gunner
Du Sablon - Sgt gunner
Burke - W.O. (that could be either warrant officer or wireless operator)/gunner
Allison _ Sgt bomb aimer
Hamel _ Pilot officer
All from No 22 Sqdn O.T.U. (operational training unit) although I am not 100% sure what AN O.T.U. is, it may be a final training unit before the real stuff?
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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dennford
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Joseph Du Sablon is buried at Chester cemetary
details are here
http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=1526188
I an looking further into this site
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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PrueM
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A couple of ideas:
1. The National Archives (UK) might have files relating to the crash. The NA of Australia has files on air crashes both military and civilian, going back decades.
2. What institution woudl have the service records of these fellows? Canadian Archives? They might have photographs on their files.
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Paper and Photograph Conservator
I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (LND, Banff) - SWAN (Fife)
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dennford
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Correction to the rank of William J Allison VAC gives him as Flt lt
All are buried at Blacon - Chester
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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dennford
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Found this but email adress not valid.
Re: wellington bomber crash 1944 Wales
WW2 discussion forum
From: andrewsimmonds@msn.com
Remote Name: 195.92.168.172
Date: 04 Oct 2002
Time: 19:47:38
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mf509, 22 otu. all canadians. photo of crew in front of aircraft exists. full details and photos if you would like them
at the following site
http://www.macksites.com/_disc1/0000009e.htm
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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dennford
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Still trying,
This one has got me. Maybe because having joined the R.A.F. as a young man, I realise that it is only fate that prevented a conflict that could have meant both me and my younger brother being in the same position as those youths.Which brings me to another point the photo is not neccesarily of one of the crew - if he had a relation in the force the chances are that it could be thier photo'
Next point - it seems that although these young men gave thier life I don't find record of any award. What I did find andfor future reference it is a very comprehensive list of RCAF awards, it gives full details of the carreers of the recipients.
http://www.airforce.ca/index2.php3?page=wwii
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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