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T Hanlon
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #45 on: Monday 29 June 09 14:17 UTC (UK) »

I don't think many people would have sought refuge in an asylum in the 1930s which were pretty grim places, often with locked wards and very seriously ill people. When they shut the last locked ward at my local asylum when I was a teenager the remaining men were transfered to the psychiatric ward at Winson Green prison!
Considering there was no national health you would have to 'bribe' a doctor to refer you as mentally ill and then more doctors would have to continue to keep you in the asylum because they believed you were mentally ill so you would have to feign some element of mental illness (one of the treatments for which at the time was electric shocks).
Yes I do know the stories of young women who had had illegitimate children being forced into asylums and kept there and institutionalized but they were ususally young girls.
I also know there was a stigma in having a close relative in an asylum so I can understand what might be said to family members to make that situation as tenable as possible for them.
Unless you were a direct descendant of the woman I would think it exceedingly unlikely any of her case notes would be released either by the record office or the hospital which ever place held them for you to find out further information. It would need a request from one of her children or grandchildren, if none of her children were still alive.

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Hi Valda, i have just joined Roots today and havn't a clue how to get started, I don't know if you can help me, as i'm not so pc literate, I have just recieved today a death cirtificate whom I believe to be my ggggrandfather, who died in rainhill asylum annexe eccleston r.d 1903, do you know how I could find out more ?
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 08:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi T Hanlon

Judging by The National Archives database on hospital records

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=629&hospital=rainhill&town=&searchdatabase.x=27&searchdatabase.y=14

You need to contact Merseyside Record Office (which is basically Liverpool Record Office) where the records (admission and discharge 1851-1969, and clinical and patients 1851-1964 - the casebook records) for Rainhill Asylum are deposited.

http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Leisure_and_culture/Local_history_and_heritage/index.asp


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Valda
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 10 September 09 10:23 UTC (UK) »

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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 10:43 UTC (UK) »

I am just writing to find out about my auntie that was in rainhill hospital. Her name was julia mills born D.A.B 14/08/1914 she was addmitted to rainhill hospital in june 1942. she was born in Toxteth Liverpool  i would like some information how she died or if she is still alive and if she is dead i would like to vist her grave. i have payed the researcher at the libary an they have Come up with nothing at the moment i know she spent all her life in rainhill any help  or information would be appreaticed
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 17:44 UTC (UK) »

If she died in Rainhill she could be buried in St. Helens Cemetery! or her family may have buried her near to where she came from.
You need to find her date of death...(St. Catherines Records - or online if you're lucky) also look on the LDS site.   If she is buried  or cremated in St. Helens Cemetery then their records are  all on line...
When you have her date and place of death then apply to that registry office for her death certificate...
Maybe someone with ancestory will have a look for her death.
I'll see if I can find anything on the cemetery site.
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 18:58 UTC (UK) »

thank you for your help im not verey good  this is my first time on rootschat  julia mills family never buried her as thay never visited her once she went in rainhill so sad
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 20:22 UTC (UK) »

If she died in Rainhill Hospital then most likely death registered in St. Helens or Prescot registry office. Did she live to an old age? How do you know about her?  Do you know that you can go to local records office to look at biths marriages and deaths.
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 11:44 UTC (UK) »

we about aunt Julia as children iv got her birth details iv just received mesage from researcher saying thy have her in rainhall up to 1967 but no discharge i dint know were to look now if she is dead i relay would like to vised her grave x
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 14:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi T Hanlon

Judging by The National Archives database on hospital records

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=629&hospital=rainhill&town=&searchdatabase.x=27&searchdatabase.y=14

You need to contact Merseyside Record Office (which is basically Liverpool Record Office) where the records (admission and discharge 1851-1969, and clinical and patients 1851-1964 - the casebook records) for Rainhill Asylum are deposited.

http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Leisure_and_culture/Local_history_and_heritage/index.asp


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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 14:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Valda, thanks for infomation, will follow it up
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:21 UTC (UK) »

Is mothers maiden name Burke?
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:46 UTC (UK) »

yes my grandmother.s name was Julia Burke Julia mills mother,
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:51 UTC (UK) »

Can find  her birth but no luck yet with death..need someone with ancestory or find my past credit...will keep looking.
If you try the Liverpool records office for her rainhill info then you might get a death date (if she died in Rainhill) difficult to get actual case records if indeed they have been kept.
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:54 UTC (UK) »

PS Did you pick up my private emails
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Re: RAINHILL HOSPITAL - Records
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 17:05 UTC (UK) »

iv done all of that payed a resercher in liverpool libiray i receved a e mail today saying he could trace her up to 1967 but there was no dischrge found makes me moor determand to finde out moor somone must know what happend to her i feel so sad for the life she must have had thank,s again
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