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Doedoe
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thanks ladies I will see what I can find out, will let you know what happens
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dotty
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I was actually born whilst my mother was a patient in Rainhill in 1945.On my birth certificate it states St Marys Hospital St Helens--whether or not this was just put on birth certificates or whether my Mother got transferred for the birth I don't know.This subjected has got me intrigued will have to do more investigating.
Dotty
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anniej
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I have been told by my colleague that St Mary's hospital was at the back of Lowe House(St Mary's) Church in St Helens. Think that part of the building is still there.
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dotty
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Thanks for the reply
Dotty
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jacko-to
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OOPS!
I somehow have missed all these messages - poor old Mary Ann died in the Annexe.
Thanks for the info - I've been meaning to go to central library since Xmas (lazy as I am) but I think I'll make the effort now.
I'll let you know how I get on.
Angie
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churchmouse
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The only hospital in St.Helens town centre at that time was The Providence Hospital in Tolver Street. Part of it is still standing and now converted into flats. No maternity wards there though...The Maternity Hospital at that time was Cowley Hill Maternity Hospital, which was on Cowley Hill Lane, St. Helens..
In later years patients from Rainhill Hospital would probably have gone to Whiston Hospital to have their babies.
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churchmouse
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Jacko-to
As far as I know Rainhill Hospital was never referred to as Eccleston Mental Hospital..it was always known as Rainhill County ??Asylum.
There was a hospital called Eccleston Hall which still stands and has been a Sanitorium and Elderley Persons Home. Maybe in the 40's it was used as a Mental Hospital (you know the war and things)
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churchmouse
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PS Jacko-to
St.Helens Archive Library would give you details of Eccleston Hall and its previous uses.
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dotty
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Oh doesn't this genealogy lark get you pondering!!!! Aways been told I was born at St Marys --decided to get my birth certificate out ---where born-----1a Elton Head Road St Helens U.D can anybody solve this query now? Would this be the address of Rainhill Assylum?
Dotty
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anniej
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One entrance to Rainhill Hospital was on Elton Head Road the other on Rainhill Rd. The only building that is left is now called the Scott Clinic and its right on the corner so presumably 1a. I remember a neighbour of mine being treated there about 20years ago for post natal depression but now it is a secure unit. It may be that the buiding was the 'hospital' wing. I know an old lady who was a nurse at Rainhill for many years, I will ask her what happened to maternity cases.
I have been told by a number of old St Helens residents that St Mary's Hospital did exist and was run by nuns just as the Providence Hospital was.
In the 1891 census Rainhill Hospital is described as Eccleston Asylum presumably because it was within the old Eccleston Parish.
Eccleston Hall Hospital was a Sanotorium.
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jacko-to
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The following link may be useful:-
http://www.mdx.ac.uk/WWW/STUDY/4_13_TA.htm#Rainhill
There is also a link to another site called The Colonade which may be helfull too.
Angie
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churchmouse
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The entrance to the 'Main' (latterly known as the Sherdley Division) was from Elton Head Road. The entrance to the 'Annexe' (latterly known as the Avon Division) was on Rainhill Road. The building which is now part of Scott Clinic was until recently known as Martlew Day Hospital. Before that I don't know. Rainhill Hospital had its own Theatre complex and facilities to look after physically sick patients so maybe in the 1940's the patients had their babies at the hospital. Certainly in later years those patients went to Whiston Hospital.
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dotty
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thanks churchmouse and jacko-to for your replies
Dotty
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goggy
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Bless me!
What a wealth of info,havent been following up on my Rainhill interest because of all the irons in the fire!
Anyway,would like to pass this on and 'hear' your comments.
My rellie was in there from abt 1938,little bits of talk heard by young ears led me to believe it was caused by Husband's,whatever,such was not the case.He died 1927,she was left with 4 or 5 children still of school age,plus a home to pay for,rent most likely.4 rooms 2up,2down.
By all accounts she was a strict woman,and upright with it.Convent educated I think,and not employed at this time.
Nearby was an Irish Doctor,probably who knew of,her family.I suspect she called in a favour,and not being able to do anything else,used 'Asylum' instead of 'Convent!'
Her family were scattered to two places girl's to G'Ma's,boy's on their own in what used to be a local shop,she herself was in a 2 room flat over shops.
Exactly when she took refuge Idont know,she was offered 'freedom' on retirement age,she was a Laundry hand at 'Winnick',but declined,probably thoroughly institutionalised.
Hope I havent bored you, but Iwould appreciate your thinking on this!!
Goggy.  
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