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Crowhunt
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1841 Census
« on: Wednesday 02 November 05 01:54 UTC (UK) »

Is there a 1841 Census and is it of any use?
Does anyone have access to it?
Would someone do a look up for me?


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Forfarian
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 November 05 23:49 UTC (UK) »

Is there a 1841 Census
Yes

and is it of any use?
Yes. It lists name, sex,occupation, age (rounded down to ther nearest 5 years for people aged 15 and over) and whether born in the county of residence or not.

> Does anyone have access to it?
It is widely available on microfilm - for example it can be consulted by arrangement in any LDS Church Family History Centre - see www.familysearch.org for a list of these

Some of it is online at www.freecen.rootsweb.com

Would someone do a look up for me?
It depends where!


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Crowhunt
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 November 05 19:16 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for the reply!
I will check out the suggestions you made and see if I can find anything out on my "Crow's" on my own. If not maybe someone wouldn't mind seeing if they could find some information on John Crow's family in the Drainie, Moray area or Elgin, Moray area.
Thanks again!


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Crowhunt
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 November 05 20:00 UTC (UK) »

Ok, I checked out the site, but no luck.
The familysearch.org site only does the 1881 Census for the UK and the freeweb site hasn't finished their project for the Moray area.
So I am back to "Does anyone have the 1841 Moray Census to look up "John Crow's family."?
Thanks to any and all!


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angelheather
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 January 06 18:17 UTC (UK) »

give me the details and I will do an 1841 census lookup for you. The information it will contain is the family and whether they were born in the county also age and occupation

Heather


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Crowhunt
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 January 06 02:16 UTC (UK) »

Hello Heather!
Thanks for the reply! I hope that you can find something.
I am looking for information on John Crow() in the Moray area. He was married to a Jannet (39)and they had 6 kids by 1841 but only 5-4 might be listed. The kids names are - William(14), Agnes(12), James(10), John( 8 ), George(6), and Margaret(3).
All were born in the Moray area, Margaret was born in Speymouth and in 1842 they have another child born in Drainie.
What I am really hunting for is the age of John Crow, father, and where he was born at.
Thanks for your help! I have been running in circles for more information on John Crow.


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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 January 06 09:52 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: Crowhunt on Wednesday 11 January 06 02:16 UTC (UK)

I am looking for information on John Crow() in the Moray area.

Have you tried the people search on http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp ?

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Crowhunt
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 January 06 21:38 UTC (UK) »

Yes, thank you.
The site does not list John Crow, the father, just his kids and his wife Jannet.
It just states that he was part of the Lossiemouth coastguard and that he was the husband to Janet.
Nothing else.
Unless I am overlooking something........
Thanks for the try.


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angelheather
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 January 06 20:11 UTC (UK) »

Hello

I noticed that Agnes was born Burghead and that her dad was a Preventive Officer I will try and find out was this occupation was from the Heritage Centre. I have looked the net and from what i can find it would seem that it has to with customs.

I did a search of Elgin census and they are not there so I will look in the Drainie census tomorrow. I see that Margaret died in speyside so could it be possible that she was also born in Dranie and do you want me to look up her birth for you?

Heather


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Crowhunt
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #9 on: Friday 13 January 06 03:20 UTC (UK) »

Heather!
Where did you see that Margaret died?! I have her listed as being born in Speymouth, Moray, Scotland about 1838. Of course I don't have it written down where I found that information. So now I am totally perplexed!
As far as where they have been in Scotland, I have the following:
John - Birth & Death - unknown
Jannet - Born, 1802, Urquhart, Moray, Scotland
Died, 1876, Elgin, Moray, Scotland
William- Born, 1827, Elgin, Moray, Scotland
Agnes - Born, 1829, Burghead, Scotland
Died, 1871, Elgin, Moray, Scotland
James - Born, 1831, Cromarty, Ross&Cromarty, Scotland
John - Born, 1833, Drainie, Moray, Scotland
Died, 1893, At sea So. Amer.
George - Born, 1835, Drainie, Moray, Scotland
Died, 1855, Elgin, Moray, Scotland
Margaret - Born, about 1838, Speymouth, Moray, Scotland
David - Born, 1842, Drainie, Moray, Scotland
Jessie - Born, 1845, Drainie, Moray, Scotland

Ok, now that I have it all listed like this, I just might have entered my information in the wrong spot. So if that be the case THEN Margaret didn't live very long. Darn.
Ok, well, it still looks like the family would of been in Drainie, Moray, Scotland in 1841.
So, yes, if you should happen to run across the BIRTH date of Margaret, that would be helpful.
Thanks ever so much for your time and effort!
Valerie


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angelheather
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #10 on: Friday 13 January 06 19:31 UTC (UK) »

Hello Valerie

This is the entry for Margaret where it just shows her death.

LIBINDX ONLINE GENEALOGICAL SEARCH

Reference No.: NM035179
Surname: CROW
Forename(s): MARGARET
Maiden Name:
Occupation:
Date of Birth:
Place of Birth:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Biography:

Marriage Details

Spouses Name:
Date of Marriage:
Place of Marriage:
Married by:
Marriage Narrative:

Death Details

Date of Death: 01 NOV 1926
Age:
Headstone Ref:
Place of Death: GLASCHOILE GRANTOWN
Parish Register:
Death Narrative:

Newspaper Articles

Newspaper Description Date Page/Column
COURANT death 12/11/1926 1/1

I can look up the newspaper for you and also do a 1851 census lookup

Here's what I found for 1841

John Crow age 40 Coastgaurd N
Janet 39 age 39 Y
William age 10 N
Agnes age 10 Y
John age 8 Y
George age 6 Y
Margaret age 4 Y

Y=yes for being born in the county
N=for not being born in the county
James is missing from the 1841 census.

They stayed in Lossiemouth which comes under Dranie. Also John Crow Snr died before 1876 so any other census will give us an idea when he died. If it is before 1855 then I will be able to look for it.

Heather


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Crowhunt
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #11 on: Friday 13 January 06 20:09 UTC (UK) »

Wow!

Heather, this is great!
Ok, I did see that record on Margaret BUT since it doesn't list parents, I was reluctant to use it. So if that is her, then she did live for a long time and never married.
Yes, if you can look up the newspaper, that would be wonderful! I don't know how to go about finding the newspaper information online.
Thanks again for all your wonderful help!
Valerie


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angelheather
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #12 on: Friday 13 January 06 20:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Valerie

The newspapers are not on line they are on film and it wouldn't take seconds to find the death.

Heather


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Crowhunt
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 14 January 06 14:43 UTC (UK) »

Well, I am glad that you don't mind looking a few things up.
Thanks again for your time.
Valerie


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angelheather
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Re: 1841 Census
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 January 06 14:55 UTC (UK) »

Hello

Here is wha the death notice it's not a lot and doesn't help:-

Elgin Courant - 12 November 1926

Crowe-at Glaschoile Granton on the 1st inst Margaret Crowe.

I coudn't find a birth for Margaret and was told that Granton would come under Highland.

Here are some of your births:-

John Crow 7 July 1833 Dranie
Winesses- John Main Preventive-man, William Ross Preventive-man both Lossiemouth.

George Crow 27 July Baptised 6 August 1835
Witmesses Mr George Flett Cheif Officer of Coastguard Lossiemouth, James Largie shipmaker Montrose, Clemetina McKenzie Burghead.

I can get Anges and James bith for you but the 1841 census says that William was not born in the county do you know hwre he was born?

Heather


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