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LizzieW
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Sad cause of g.g.gran's death
« on: Monday 11 August 08 20:07 BST (UK) »

I've just received the death certificate of one of my g.g.grandmothers and the cause of her death is given as uterine haemorrhage. 

As she died on 1 June 1844 and my g.grandfather, her youngest child was born on 17 Feb 1843, it was obviously not related to his birth, although I suppose she could have been pregnant again with a placenta praevia which would probably cause fatal bleeding, although I would have thought it might have mentioned pregnancy or labour on the death certificate.

I cannot find any other births in 1844 for the family (a fairly unusual surname) but if it was placenta praevia the infant would have been born dead, another option that occurred to me was that perhaps she fell victim to an illegal abortion.   Uterine cancer was another option I thought of, but I don't know if that was recognized in 1844.  Certainly I have ancestors who died in the 1880s who have uterine cancer on their death certificates.

One of those things we'll never know.

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Re: Sad cause of g.g.gran's death
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 11:34 BST (UK) »

That is sad indeed, Lizzie!  Cry  And lovely that you are honouring her memory.

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Re: Sad cause of g.g.gran's death
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 12:01 BST (UK) »

I suppose there are quite a few possibilites to the cause of the haemorrhage.
I wouldn't have expected an illegal abortion if she was married and already had children.
A subsequent pregnancy - possibly a miscarriage or even ectopic pregnancy or as you suggest a placenta praevia.
If you have ancestors on the same line, closely related who have had uterine cancer, I would think that increases the probability of the same in this instance.
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Re: Sad cause of g.g.gran's death
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 13:05 BST (UK) »

JustKia - My other ancestors who had uterine cancer were on different lines, in fact, I would think about 49.9% of my ancestors died of cancer, although the majority were male and another 49.9% died of heart disease or strokes.  Fortunately, there were the other 0.02% of females only who died of old age, in their 90s.  I'm hoping to add to that 0.02%!

I found a death of a female with the same name as g.g.gran about 8 months after g.g.gran's death in the same place, and as I couldn't find a birth registered, I have sent for the death certificate, with a reference check of the father's name.

However, although I have my g.grandfather's birth certificate, when I was just checking I couldn't find his birth registered either, which made no sense.  So I went back to my notes and found that his name had been mistranscribed on Ancestry, Findmypast and FreeBMD.  So I went back to search the births in 1844 and lo and behold there is a baby born June 1844 with the same wrongly transcribed name as was given to my g.grandfather.

So it looks as though, after all, poor g.g.gran died of childbirth complications.  I'm now going to shell out another £7 for the wrongly transcribed birth certificate.

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Re: Sad cause of g.g.gran's death
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 13:19 BST (UK) »

When you say wrongly transcribed I'm presuming you mean the database entry is different to the actual image?
Just thinking out loud so to speak, but if the birth index is the same as the transcriptions of the census images is it possible that the "wrong" name is actually the right name?
Although, I'm very aware that the birth index can be wrong as my own mother's name is wrong on the index Roll Eyes and she has her original birth cert with the right name on.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 14:15 BST (UK) »

JustKia

The family name is Cockett.  My g.grandfather was John Isaac Cockett but the birth as listed on FreeBMD etc. is shown as John Isaac Corkett, however his birth certificate shows the correct spelling.

Having found a death of someone with the same name as my g.g.gran, that is Ann Cockett, in the same place, only a few months later, I just thought it might have been her baby and sent for the death certificate, yesterday.  Then, of course, thinking about it this morning and having realised that my g.grandad's birth is listed on the internet as John Isaac Corkett, I thought I'd look for a birth of an Ann Corkett and there she was, listed in June 1844, the same month as my g.g.gran died.  I've now sent for that birth certificate, which I'm sure will tie up all the loose ends.  I'll be interested to see if when the birth certificate arrives, whether it is a copy (as opposed to being re-written by someone in GRO) and has the same handwriting as my g.grandfather's birth certificate, as the handwriting on that is a bit dodgy and I can see why the name might have been mistranscribed.

So if I'm correct, g.g.grandad who was a publican, at the age of 33 had lost his 28 year old wife and was left with 3 children, two boys aged 3 and 1 and a new baby girl.  He did re-marry but not for another 4 years.

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Re: Sad cause of g.g.gran's death
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 17:01 BST (UK) »

Sorry, I misread your previous post, Understand now that there was a daughter (not another adult death with the same name) and it appears g.g.gran's haemorrhage was indeed following the birth of their daughter.
Don't you just love the digging it takes to unravel the past?
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Re: Sad cause of g.g.gran's death
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 August 08 17:22 BST (UK) »

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Don't you just love the digging it takes to unravel the past?

I do when it all falls into place easily.   Grin Grin  Then I feel sorry for my ancestors who had such hard and often unhappy lives with deaths of children and partners at a young age.

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