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WATTS family in Hunts.
« on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:03 GMT (UK) »

my wife (Yvonne born WATTS) says the following:-
my gggrandfather George Jonathan Watts (born 1819 in Chesterton, Hunts) married Jane HEAD(born 1821 in Alwalton Hunts) in 1846 in Chesterton. We think they had 8 children John Joseph (b1847), Elizabeth (b1849), Georgina (b1851), Sarah (b1853), Jane (b1855), Joseph (b1858), Martha & mary (b1861). The first 5 were born in Alwalton Hunts, Joseph in Fletton, Hunts and the twins in Little Stoney, Cheshire. In 1851 they were living in Read House, Drydens(?) Rd(ref HO.107/1747). We are looking for information on George Jonathan's possible brothers (maybe 6 - William, James John, Charles, Joseph, Cecil Henry and John - although this is not confirmed.) and any ancestors and/or descendants.  Embarrassed
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DRAKE Norfolk
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Re: WATTS family in Hunts.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 November 05 08:55 GMT (UK) »

Hi Alan

Welcome to Rootschat

Chesterton  is one of the few Hunts parishes where the parish register has been extracted onto the IGI. If you check it out  on www.familysearch.org you will find the christening of George Jonathan Watts and 5 of his brothers that you mention (John is missing). Parents John and Elizabeth Watts.

You appear to have census information on George's family, but if this not the case just ask. In 1851 Georgina is male named George Ana! This family certainly moved around the country as in 1861 they were in Cheshire, and 1871 in Kings Lynn.

Your request is a bit vague - if you need more specific detail eg marriage of John and Elizabeth then post a separate request

Hope this helps

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David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: WATTS family in Hunts.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 August 08 22:15 BST (UK) »

Hello.
I have a Joseph Watts on my family tree.  I am a direct line to him, but all I know was he was born in Huntingdonshire.  He married a Mary Lantaff who was born 1804, so I am guessing Joseph was around the same age. Their children were Ester born 1825, James born 1826, Maria born 1827, Robert born 1828, George born 1829, John born 1832, Mary born 1839 and Henry born 1842, my line.
I am wondering if Joseph was a brother to George Jonathon Watts.  I cannot find them on any internet sites. I am happy to share Joseph descendants with you, hopefully we can find a connection.
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Denise Allen
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Re: WATTS family in Hunts.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 August 08 13:57 BST (UK) »

My GG Grandfather George Jonathon Watts born 1819 had 5 brothers - Charles b 1809, James John b 1811, William b 1813 (died 1840) , Joseph b 1815, Cecil Henry b 1822 (died 1822). All were baptised in Chesterton (Hunts NOT Cambridge).
I cannot trace Charles, James or Joseph any further.
On the 1841 census, HO107/452/3 George Jonathan aged 20 is living with his parents, John aged 55 and Elizabeth (born Knibbs) aged 60, in Cates Cabin - a coaching inn on the Great North Road.  Cates Cabin is also known as Dryden's Head or Reed House!!  No sign of the other brothers.
On the 1851 census, HO107/1747 George Jonathan aged 32 is now Innkeeper/Builder at Cates Cabin married to Jane (Head) aged 31 from Alwalton (across the main road).
I think my Joseph born 1815 is too young to be your Joseph, but there may be a link somewhere. Are your Watts from Hemingford Grey area?? If you can let me have descendant details that would be lovely - perhaps sent to my wife's personal email address   yvonne.munford@btinternet.com   
I am happy to let you have details of my descendants.
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DRAKE Norfolk
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Re: WATTS family in Hunts.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 August 08 13:19 BST (UK) »

Hi Denise,

You say "I cannot find them on any internet sites".

The marriage entry at Hemingford Abbots gives Joseph's parish of residence as Hemingford Grey, and in 1841 Joseph and family were living in Hemingford Grey, and in 1851 with Joseph apparently dead all his children were shown as born in Hemingford Grey. Hemingford Grey would therefore appear to be the place to start when looking for his baptism, and hence his parents.

But Hemingford Grey parish register hasn't been filmed by the LDS, nor has it been extracted onto the IGI or BVRI, nor is a transcription available from Hunts FHS. So it simply isn't on the internet, which is why you can't find anything. The only place that I'm aware of that you can study the parish register for baptisms is Huntingdon Records Office. If you can't make it to Huntingdon they run a reasonably priced research service.

There are numerous Watts burials at Hemingford Grey on the NBI, too many to try to piece them together from that source. But there is only one marriage in Hunts with a Hemingford Grey connection that might be Joseph's parents: James of Hemingford Grey and Elizabeth Selby at Brampton in 1795. Unfortunately the position with Brampton parish register is the same as with that of Hemingford Grey.

A James Watts age 65 was buried at Hemingford Grey on 4 March 1835, who may have been the one married at Brampton.

In 1841 Joseph Watts was described as a Miller's labourer.

Also living in Hemingford Grey in 1841 was
Elizabeth Watts 65
John Watts 35 Miller
Charles Watts 25 Miller.
All born in Hunts

In 1851 Elizabeth aged 77 born Brampton was still living in Hemingford Grey with son John 46 miller b Hemingford.

Looking at the Watts in Hemingford Grey in 1841 and 1851 and comparing the names with burials on the NBI seems to show that there was only one couple who could have had children c1800.

This is all circumstantial of course, but I suspect that Joseph was the son of James and Elizabeth, and that John and Charles were his brothers, and that all three of them were in the milling trade. But it will take his baptism from the parish register to prove it

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: WATTS family in Hunts.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 August 08 22:56 BST (UK) »

Dear David
Thank you so much for all your information.  Yes I will have to have a day at Huntingdon records office  and do some look ups.  I do not live too far away from it. 
I have also come up against a brickwall with my Henry Watts born 1842, son of Jospeh Watts.  Henry married a Mary Ann Austin born St Ives Huntingdon 1843.  Her father was William Austin born 1820 and mother Sarah Nightingale born 1823.  I am looking for information on their families.
Again I will look these up at Huntingdon records office, or can you please help with these names.

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Denise Allen
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Re: WATTS family in Hunts.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 August 08 09:22 BST (UK) »

That's not a brick wall!

I don't know where your birth dates  for William and Sarah come from, but they are adrift by some years. Were you assuming that Mary Ann was the eldest child?

There's a marriage in 1832 in St Ives between William Austin & Sarah Nightingale

In the 1851 census HO107/1749 folio 464B
Bullock Market, St Ives
William Austin head marr 44 labourer b Needingworth Hunts
Sarah Austin wife 43 b Holme Hunts
William Austin son 15 bakers boy b St Ives
John Austin son 11 rope spinner b St Ives
Mary Ann Austin dau 9 scholar b St Ives
Sarah Ann Austin dau 7 scholar b St Ives
Emma Austin dau 3 scholar b St Ives
Ephraim Austin son 1 mth b St Ives
James Barny lodger unmarr 26 Boatwright b St Ives

Holywell cum Needingworth parish register has been extracted onto the IGI but there's no William Austin. I wonder if the family might have been non-conformist.

1861 RG9/979 folio 45A
Cow & Hare Yard, St Ives
William Austin head marr 53 Lab & local preacher
Sarah Austin wife 52 b St Ives
John Austin son unm 24 Dyer b St Ives
Emma Austin dau 11 scholar b St Ives
Henry Phillips lodger widower 68 Independent gent b St Ives

So it looks as though he was non-conformist.

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: WATTS family in Hunts.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 August 08 10:40 BST (UK) »

Hello David
Thank you so much for the details of William and Sarah.  My dates were taken from notes my grandfather made in 1974, from St Marys Church Doddington and from memory.
I had no idea how many children they had, I only had details of Mary Ann, my GG Grandmother.
I will carry on researching, and contact you again if I get stuck.
Many, many thanks
Denise

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