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Topic: Billericay Brentwood Essex Hackney Union Training Schools Folio 131 Pa (Read 446 times)
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kenjo
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Hello There, 
I was wondering if anyone can tell me about this place.
1891 census
RG12/1382 Billericay Brentwood Essex,
Hackney Union Training Schools Folio 131 Page ...
was it really a school?
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kenjo
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lizdb
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Any more info available as to where in Brentwood is was?
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kenjo
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What I really want to know, is where this is, and if
Ella Gilespie, school nurse, is at this place,
with a boy George Wakeling, 14yrs. I know Robert was on this census sheet, but was Ella there as well.?
lizdb, are you able to read the 1891c?
If not, I will post in the census section.
What do you think.
regards,
kenjo
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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RG12/1382 Billericay Brentwood Hackney Union Training Schools Folio 122 Page 1
Ella Maud Annie Gillispie born 1840, Cheapside
Infant Nurse.
Training Schools were usually attached to Workhouses
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/education/workhouse.shtml
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Hackney Schools, Brentwood
In 1885, the Brentwood School District, of which Hackney was a member, was dissolved and Hackney took over its school at Brentwood as a Branch Institution. The site had originally been an industrial school set up by the Shoreditch Board of Guardians in 1854, and had been taken over by the Brentwood School District in 1877.
The school had a south-facing main building, three storeys high at the front, with dining-hall, kitchens and nurseries in a wing at the centre rear, and long, narrow wings to each side, one accommodating boys and the other girls. Utility blocks at the rear included a bakehouse, laundry and boiler house.
Taken from this link
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Hackney/Hackney.shtml
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Thanks, Tricia,
I had found this article, as well, but wasn't sure if this was the same place as where you found George wakeling,
so it seems he was in a work house,
and does this mean, he was put there by his mother?
so he was an orphan, or close to it?
and Ella was part of the same institute.
I just want to get my facts straight.
Regards,
Jo
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'Tricia
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Usually the children were orphans but not always.
Have you found his mother on the 1891 census?
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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If this is the right boy,
his mum, was working in Cornwall, I can't remember her name of hand, but she was living with the clark family.
she never married, and was born in essex.
this boys, grandfather was a farmer, in essex, and i found it strange that this boy , wasn't living with him. or his unmarried aunts, that were living at home.
So that is why, I wanted to know the type of school it was. and if Ella Gillespie was working at or near this institute, then I could establish, was sort of place it was.... after reading what a horror she turned out to be.
Jo
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'Tricia
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Who is Ella Gillespie, then?
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Tricia,
When you found George Wakeling,
and the place he was in,
I didn't know, if this was a workhouse, school or not....
and doing a google search, I still wasn't sure if they were the same place or not....
hoping, that it was a college or such....(always looking on the bright side of things)
when I found the same workhouse info,(as yourself) and that an ella Gillespie, was jailed in 1893 for cruilty,
at the union workhouse,
I thought if Ella is at the same place as George, then that would tell me he was in a workhouse, and I could order the film from the mormons,
Basicly I have established Ella at the workhouse but, needed to establish if this is the same address as George.
so I presume it was.
Is that right.?
JO
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'Tricia
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Unfortunately, yes 
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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The reason I asked where it was is that I live in Brentwood, so thought I might be able to tell you what was there now.
The link Tricia gives is really informative about the place - and it also gives lots of info about Ella Gilespie who worked there.
The building later becames St Faiths Hospital (I remember that), but recently it was all pulled down and redeveloped (as the article in tricia's link says) and it is a new office building which is BT headquarters.
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Thankyou ladies for all this info, I can now, tell George's grandchildren, what you have found,
and they can order the films on the workhouse, and then they may learn a little bit more on who put george there. whether it was his mother, or someone else.
Thanks again.....
joanne.
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