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How can i spell this differently?
« on: Wednesday 01 September 04 16:08 BST (UK) »

ELISBY.

On the 1891 Census for Leeds ( Ansestry!...yeah!) i found James B Elisby had married Emily M Roberts they were living with her parents at the time or i would never have found her.  They have a 3 month old son Ernest Elisby.   James is from Scotland but it does'nt give a town or anything.  He is 22 and Emily is 19.

Kewl!  i thought nice easy name, should have no trouble finding him on the 1881 census.   Not a chance.!!   There is one Thomas Elisby living in london...thats it!

Search on Ancestry and it brings up only three........my three.

I've tried mis spelling the name Ellesby, Ellisby, Helesby..What other spellings can i come up with?
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Brighouse:  Smith
Lambeth: Clisby
Leeds: Baxendale,Baxter, Beales,Bowe
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Re: How can i spell this differently?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 September 04 16:16 BST (UK) »

Perhaps 'Elsby'? Elsby is quite the uncommon midlands surname and is asociated strongly with my Maternal ancestors.

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HILL/BURKE/BELCHER/BIGNELL/BLAKE/YELDHAM in London
HOPKINS/HART/MATTHEWS/MUNSON in Exeter & Central Devon
FEREDAY
in Staffordshire
MUSCUTT/ELSBY/BRIDGENS/BURKE/BELL/ADAMS/RAINBOW in Stoke-on-Trent
BURKE/O’CALLAGHAN/CONNOLLY/FITZPATRICK in Ireland
HOPKINS/ADAMS/DOWDING/TROWBRIDGE in Shaftesbury
MUNSON/BIGNELL/YELDHAM in Essex
BLAKE in Suffolk
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Re: How can i spell this differently?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 September 04 16:18 BST (UK) »

Does your research for this name ever take you into Scotland or Leeds?
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Brighouse:  Smith
Lambeth: Clisby
Leeds: Baxendale,Baxter, Beales,Bowe
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Re: How can i spell this differently?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 September 04 16:19 BST (UK) »

If he is from Scotland and only 22 in 1891 then chances are he is still in Scotland at the age of 12, especially if you can't find him online.

Are you using familysearch or the scottish CDs?

I can check when I get home if you want...

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Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 September 04 16:21 BST (UK) »

Sadly no  Sad My Elsby ancestors are chiefly from Burslem and other regions of Stoke-on-Trent. However, a handful show up in Wybunbury, Cheshire.
I wish you the best of luck with your research!!
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HOPKINS/HART/MATTHEWS/MUNSON in Exeter & Central Devon
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BURKE/O’CALLAGHAN/CONNOLLY/FITZPATRICK in Ireland
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Re: How can i spell this differently?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 September 04 16:21 BST (UK) »

Hi

Change the 'e' into an 'a' or an 'o' or even a 'u'

Elasby, Elosby, Elusby, etc.

It all sounds the same when you say it.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 September 04 22:13 BST (UK) »

Now my technique when I have an odd name is to look at the other one.  Roberts maybe a common enough name but in Yorkshire less so.

Here's the marriage which I think solves the spelling mistake......

Name Year Quarter District County Volume Page
 
CLISBY, James 1890 September Leeds (1837-1929) West Riding of Yorkshire 9b 791
Roberts, Emily 1890 September Leeds (1837-1929) West Riding of Yorkshire 9b 791

And I believe this is JAmes (Jas) in 1881...

James J. CLISBY   Head   M   Male   47   Lambeth, Surrey, England   Hatter     
Selina E. CLISBY   Wife   M   Female   30   Lynn Regis, Dorset, England       
 
Frank CLISBY   Son   U   Male   19   Bristol St James   Presser (Tailors)     

Selina W. W. CLISBY   Daur      Female   14   Edinbrugh, Scotland   School     

Jas. B. CLISBY   Son      Male   12   Edinbrugh, Scotland   School     

Christiana E. CLISBY   Daur      Female   10   Liverpool, Lancashire, England   School     

Margaret E. CLISBY   Daur      Female   9   Liverpool, Lancashire, England   School     

Ellen A. WOODGATE   Sister In Law      Female   21   Dover Lydem Spout   Domestic (Out Of Sit)     

Alice S. J. WOODGATE   Niece      Female   1   Leeds, York, England     

Now a quick scoot to http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Will get you James' birth reg will give his parents names inc maiden name of mother and where they married.

There y'go.

How's that!


All the best ,
Pam
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Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 September 04 22:24 BST (UK) »

Oh and here's James snr possible birth...

JAMES JOHN CLISBY 
  Male     Event(s):  Birth:  21 DEC 1832   

Christening:  31 MAR 1833   Saint Mary, Newington, Surrey, England
Parents:
  Father:  JAMES CLISBY  Family
  Mother:  WINIFRED 

And his marriage...

JAMES JOHN CLISBY 
  Marriages:
  Spouse:  SELINA ELIZABETH WOODGATE  Family
  Marriage:  15 SEP 1868   Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Again Scotlands people would give you all th eparents inc maiden names...

And James snr marriage...

JAMES CLISBY 
  Male   Family
   
Marriages:
  Spouse:  WINEFRED CAVANAUGH  Family
  Marriage:  26 APR 1830   Saint Mary, Newington, Surrey, England

So it just turned out to be a brief visit to Scotland.

Cheers,
Pam
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 September 04 08:44 BST (UK) »

What can i say??   I,m delighted Pam! 

I never would have thought to look for Clisby...thats wonderful thankyou.


I knew Rootschatters would come up trumps!

 Cheesy




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       Any one seen any BAXENDALES?

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Brighouse:  Smith
Lambeth: Clisby
Leeds: Baxendale,Baxter, Beales,Bowe
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« Reply #9 on: Thursday 02 September 04 15:34 BST (UK) »

Pam,
Great result but please could you provide the sources so that the person who you found that information for as some idea where to look when he verifies it.  After all we dont trust work with no sources Smiley

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 02 September 04 19:34 BST (UK) »

Absolutely right rob, though I don't trust info with sources unless I see it with me own eyes  Grin

All the above came from the LDS site - IGI and 1881 census - all primatry sources should be checked to verify.

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Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 02 September 04 20:04 BST (UK) »

I have re-checked the 1901 Census with the name Clisby and found nearly all the family living in and around Leeds.  I have been able to add them all to my tree. 

I,m so glad i asked for help  Cheesy


Thanks Pam
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Lambeth: Clisby
Leeds: Baxendale,Baxter, Beales,Bowe
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 04 September 04 09:57 BST (UK) »

Is there a web site where you can look up different spellings of a surname? Or even a first name?

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 04 September 04 10:59 BST (UK) »


Hi Angel, Grin

this site gives some ideas on differet spelling of surnames -
www.last-names.net/Articles/Spelling.asp - 20k

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