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Jang
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Can anyone help me find my gg grandmother in 1841? She was Mary Ann Cook born ca 1831 Leven Dunbarton (according to the 1881 census). Her parents were John Cook and Margaret (nee McQuat or McWatt) - according to her death certificate. She married William Bennie in 1849 in Barony.
Many thanks
Jan
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scots lass
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Can anyone help me find my gg grandmother in 1841? She was Mary Ann Cook born ca 1831 Leven Dunbarton (according to the 1881 census). Her parents were John Cook and Margaret (nee McQuat or McWatt) - according to her death certificate. She married William Bennie in 1849 in Barony.
Many thanks
Jan
Hi Jan,
I have some Mc watts in my tree I have a Margaret born 1800, but do not have any details of marriage, as there were a few brothers its possable one of them also had a daughter named Margaret, they all came from Barony. I to also had the same problem with spelling (Mcquat) that was on a death cert I got and threw me for some time.
If I can help you please ask.
Regards Helen
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Dewar, Simpson, Wood, Pickering, Kennedy, Duff,Craig,Kidd, Martin, Moor,Reid, Pringle,McWatt.Taylor,McKillop.Paton,Porter,Prop,Ramsey,Stewart,Watson.
Perthshire. Midlothian ,Glasgow, Fife, Perthshire, Roxbugh, Middlesex.
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Jang
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Hi Helen,
Thanks for your reply. From her daughter's death certificate, I know that Margaret Cook (nee McQuat) was deceased by 1908. I was hoping to find the family in the 1841 census so I could find out more about her parents.
Regards
Jan
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scots lass
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Hi Jan I have a Margaret Mcwatt born 1800 in my family tree, I had the same problem as you as on Scotlands People her parents were listed as McQuat, she had 9 brothers and sister, just wondered if this is poss the same person you are looking for. Regards Helen.
Sorry just went back in and realized I had answered you already, been ill and may have lost my marbles.
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Dewar, Simpson, Wood, Pickering, Kennedy, Duff,Craig,Kidd, Martin, Moor,Reid, Pringle,McWatt.Taylor,McKillop.Paton,Porter,Prop,Ramsey,Stewart,Watson.
Perthshire. Midlothian ,Glasgow, Fife, Perthshire, Roxbugh, Middlesex.
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Gadget
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Hi Jan
In the 1841, the only Mary Ann Cook of that age is in Paisley- High Church, Renfrewshire:
39 High Street - seems like a tenement block, lots of households
Margaret Cook, 75-9, Cotton Weaver, NBC
Margaret Cook, 20-4, Shop keeper, BC
James, 15-19, Ap printer of books, BC
George, 10, Ap painter, BC
Mary Ann Cook, 9, BC
GROS Ref - 573-00005-00011
Gadget
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Jang
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Hi Gadget,
Many thanks for the lookup. Even though it says that Mary Ann was born in Renfrewshire and not Dunbarton, I have a feeling she might be the right one. I've since found two children for John Cook and Margaret McWatt in the IGI - Robert bapt 9 Nov 1829 and John bapt 18 Jan 1842, both Low Church Paisley so the address sort of fits.
It looks like the children are living with their grandmother. I think I'm going to have to track down John and Margaret Cook's death certificates or their marriage, to get any further back.
Regards
Jan
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Gadget
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Hi Jan
As they married before 1855, it is unlikely that the marriage record of John and Margaret will give much information. Do you have any rough idea of their deaths - for example, are they on the 1851 census? Did any of their children marry after 1855?
I'll have a quick look.
Gadget
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Jang
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Hi Gadget,
I know from Mary Ann's death certificate they were deceased by 1908 (no surprise, I guess!).
Mary Ann married William Bennie in 1849 so she's not living with her parents in 1851 - that makes it difficult to identify the right couple in the 1851 census.
Regards
Jan
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Gadget
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I'm a bit concerned about the people listed on the 1841 - Margaret, aged 20-24, seems a bit young to be Mary Ann's mother. Also, if they had a child baptised in 1829, we're looking for people born 1805 - 1810 ish, I would think.
The John, bpt 1842, might show up with them on the 1851 
Gadget
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Jang
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I think the Margaret aged 20-24 could be an elder sister - she could be named after her mother. And the Margaret aged 75-79 could be the grandmother. Which begs the question, where are the parents? They'd have to still be alive, if they had John in 1842. I couldn't find either a John or Robert born Renfrew in 1881. Or John and Margaret in 1881, so they'd possibly died by then.
Regards
Jan
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Gadget
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Hi Jan
I've had a good look and can't seem to locate the parents  Found a possible John born Ireland, as a visitor in Paisley - down as 'unmarried' in 1851.
I'm a bit puzzled - have you found anything on the John/Margaret marriage yet? McWatt/Quat seems possibly Irish or Dum/Gal to me.
Gadget
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Jang
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Hi Gadget,
Thanks for looking :-)
I haven't been able to find a marriage for John Cook and Margaret McQuat so maybe they did marry in Ireland. I could only find the two children born to them in Paisley - and they were a long way apart, 1829 and 1842.
It seems odd that Mary Ann gave Leven Dumbarton as her birthplace both in 1861 and 1881.
Regards
Jan
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joette
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Remember that Leven &Paisley are just across the water(The Clyde) from each other.Possible that some were born in Paisley & one some in Leven.
What was her Father's occupation?Again maybe a reason for the move!
There were lots of Ferry crossings in the area too.
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Waddell-Perthshire,Dollar,Clydebank,Glasgow & USA.
Scott -Roxb,Midlothian.
McKimmies-Aberdeenshire,Banff,Morayshire,Niagara&NewJersey.Old Kilpatrick.
Lindley,Veitch-Canada.
Veitch-Peebles,Crawfordjohn,Midlothian.
Ross,Torrance,Brown,McDowall.
Greer/Simpson/Jenkins-Old Kilpatrick& Camelon Falkirk,Abbey/Neilston
Leitch-Abbey Parish.
Kerr/Carr.
Breakenridge/Liddell-Temple Midlothian.
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Fraser/Barron/Coutts/Singer.
Waddell-USA after 1923.
McFarlanes-Midlothian/Australia.
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Jang
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Hi Joette,
Thanks for that - my knowlege of Scottish geography is almost nil. Unfortunately Mary Ann's death certificate didn't list her father's occupation.
Regards
Jan
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