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Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« on: Wednesday 23 November 05 22:11 GMT (UK) »

I am seeking any information about the marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep on the 8th July 1850 in Ridgemont Bedfordshire (found in I.G.I's) and their family.
I have looked in the 1851 and 1861 census but cannot find them. I have no knowledge of when and where they were born.
They would have had at least 4 children John , Thomas , Susan and Mary Ann.
It is thought that John , Thomas and Susan were taken into care in the late 1860's although Barnado's have no knowledge of this .
Any help would be appreciated
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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 November 05 22:51 GMT (UK) »

hi

what was John's occupation??

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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 November 05 23:06 GMT (UK) »

Hi Angie
I have no more info on John and  Mary Ann. This Posting is a shot in the dark.
All I have is a Father's and Mother's name and a rough estimate of when they married plus the children's names.
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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 November 05 23:09 GMT (UK) »

hi

Okay do you know roughley when the children were born ??
might help trace them

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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 November 05 23:17 GMT (UK) »

John ,Thomas and Susan would have been at the latter end of 1850's
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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 November 05 23:56 GMT (UK) »

hi

thanks for that ive tried farr far parr furr and loads of variations nothing to show sorry

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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 November 05 08:49 GMT (UK) »

The IGI marriage is actually between John Farr and Ann Keep, not Mary Ann Keep, and there is a baptism in Ridgmont of Ann Keep in 1826. There is also a baptism in Ridgmont of Mary Farr, parents John and Ann, in 1854.

If you think that your family was John and Mary Farr then the Ridgmont family may not be yours.

But still can't find John and Ann, or dau Mary, in 1851 or 1861!

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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 November 05 17:38 GMT (UK) »

Ridgemont marriage (from parish registers): (BMD reg Sep Woburn)

No 100 July 8th 1850

John Farr full age bachelor Labourer of Ridgemont father John Farr Labourer
Anne Keep full age spinster Lacemaker Ridgemont father Enoch Keep Labourer

Both left their mark x

Wit: Thomas Lawson X & Hannah Keep x

Baptism Ridgemont

No 46 March 12th 1854 Mary dau of Ann & John Farr (looked like Parr!) of Woburn Sands Labourer.

If this is the correct family then perhaps some other kind sole would search for the other children who may have been baptised in Woburn Sands!

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Researching London: Crisp, Leahy, Lumley. Berks: Billington, Leahy, Newbury, Yorks: Naylor, Smith, Thackwray, Wilkinson, Lancs: Smith. Leics: Everitt, Marshall, Purcell, Lincs: Bullivant, Everitt, Johnson, Sargeant, Ward. Gloucs: Chard, Coopey, Cowley, Croome, May, Millman, Organ, Savage, Shearman. Ireland: Leahy (Killarny, Kilkenny, Kerry, Cork)
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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 November 05 20:37 GMT (UK) »

Hi again

If the above Farr children were actually born in Woburn Sands then the Thomas Farr (32) in the 1881 census at Chapel St, Woburn could be the Thomas above (birthplace named as Woburn).

He had a wife Sarah (25) bn Woburn & a son Sydney (9) born in Erith, Kent.

This means that this Thomas Farr was probably in Kent in the 1871 census. His wife could only have been about 16 when she had Sydney!

Possible further clues could be had by checking their marriage entry - Woburn/Woburn Sands?

That is, of course, if this the correct family Grin

Good luck

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Researching London: Crisp, Leahy, Lumley. Berks: Billington, Leahy, Newbury, Yorks: Naylor, Smith, Thackwray, Wilkinson, Lancs: Smith. Leics: Everitt, Marshall, Purcell, Lincs: Bullivant, Everitt, Johnson, Sargeant, Ward. Gloucs: Chard, Coopey, Cowley, Croome, May, Millman, Organ, Savage, Shearman. Ireland: Leahy (Killarny, Kilkenny, Kerry, Cork)
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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 December 05 19:59 GMT (UK) »

Hi Criggy
Sorry to have been so long in coming back on site but I have been away for a few weeks. Thanks for all your hard work but I think it must be the wrong family.
I have been back to the source of my info and they cannot add anything new.
I noticed that you are interested in the LEAHY family. In the 1940s , 50,s ,60,s I grew up with a family of that name in Surrey
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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 December 05 21:24 GMT (UK) »

Hi again

My Leahy's are spread over a wide area. They originated in Ireland, moving to London at the time of the potato famine. My branch moved to Reading from where they again dispersed, having had fourteen children. What were the names of the Leahy's you knew if you don't mind me asking?

Keep hunting, you'll get there one day Smiley


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Researching London: Crisp, Leahy, Lumley. Berks: Billington, Leahy, Newbury, Yorks: Naylor, Smith, Thackwray, Wilkinson, Lancs: Smith. Leics: Everitt, Marshall, Purcell, Lincs: Bullivant, Everitt, Johnson, Sargeant, Ward. Gloucs: Chard, Coopey, Cowley, Croome, May, Millman, Organ, Savage, Shearman. Ireland: Leahy (Killarny, Kilkenny, Kerry, Cork)
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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 December 05 22:25 GMT (UK) »

Hi Criggy
Thanks very much I will keep your offer in mind.
The Leahy's that I knew lived in ASH Surrey , just on the border with Hampshire, about 4 miles from ALDERSHOT . They were :-
William ( Bill ) Leahy born about 1905- 1910
Mary              Leahy ----------------------------
children
Mary  c  1938
William c 1939
John     c 1940
James   c 1945
Were they your reles.
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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #12 on: Monday 19 December 05 08:08 GMT (UK) »

Hi Teejay

Many thanks. At this moment in time I can't see a link but will keep your info on file just in case I find one in the future!

Merry Christmas

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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #13 on: Friday 02 November 07 22:45 GMT (UK) »

I just found your posting of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep, I am a descendant of their son John Farr, he was my great great grandfather and would like to compare notes with you.

I just recently found the 1861 Census for them and found Ann Keep's death certificate.
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Re: Marriage of John Farr and Mary Ann Keep
« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 March 08 19:01 GMT (UK) »

The Marriage of John FARR was to Anne KEEP (not Mary Ann) was July 8, 1850 in Ridgmont, Beds as follows:
No 100 July 8th 1850
John Farr full age bachelor Labourer of Ridgemont father John Farr Labourer
Anne Keep full age spinster Lacemaker Ridgemont father Enoch Keep Labourer
Both left their mark x
Wit: Thomas Lawson X & Hannah Keep x

Their daughter, Mary Ann's baptism is as follows:
No 46 March 12th 1854 Mary dau of Ann & John Farr (looked like Parr!) of Woburn Sands Labourer. 

After 5 more children were born, Anne (KEEP) FARR died in 1868 as follows:
Anne Farre 1868, quarter Jul-Aug-Sep, age 43, West Ham, Essex, Greater London, volume 4a, page 36. 
Cause of death Ulcerated Womb-1 year- Exhaustion 1 month, age 43 yrs

John Farr (mispelled as Furr) is listed with his children in Plaistow:
1871 Census England PRO RG10 1631 page 24
Civil Parish (or Township) of West Ham
Ward of Plaistow
Local Board of West Ham
Ecclesiastical District of S. Mark
No of Schedule 298
John Furr (should be Farr) Head, Widower, 40,  Labourer in manual work?, Beds, Woburn,
Mary, daug, ?, 18, blank, Essex, Plaistow
Ann, daug, ?, 12, scholar, Essex, Plaistow
Susan, daug, ?, 10, scholar, Essex, Plaistow
John, son, ?, 8, scholar, Essex, Plaistow
Thomas, son, ?, 6, scholar, Essex, Plaistow
Sarah,daug. ?, 4, Essex, Plaistow
Charles, grandson, ?, 8 mos, Essex, Plaistow

Sometime between the census date and August 1872-1874, the children became wards of Miss Macpherson.  I do not know which home they would have gone to as those  records were passed on to Barnardo's in 1925 and they had only limited information on the children.  In May 1872 Susan was sent to Quebec, Canada as a domestic servant.  In Aug 1874 John  (age 12) was sent to Kirkaldy, Fife, Scotland to work in a linoleum factory and  Thomas (my gr grandfather) was sent to Ontario, Canada to work on a farm.  I do not know what happened to Mary Ann and Annie at that time, but they remained in the area.  Mary Ann married James Stratton and Annie married William Bays.  I do not have any information regarding Sarah or the grandson, Charles.  I have not found any record of John Farr after the 1871 census.

I would appreciate any information about this family and the parents of John Farr and Anne Keep.  I will certainly share what I have with anyone who is interested. 

Thank you for reading this message.

Helen Wyse

   









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