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maggie smith
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I am trying to trace my GGrandmother, her name is Mary Richardson, she was born in 1854. Her fathers name was John, but I would like to find out her mothers name. Mary married ThomasHeslop in 1882 at Newcastle, and they had a daughter Floranna (fLORRIE), born in ASGHILL. I believe Mary had a sister Jane. I am unable to find these people on the 1901census. Any information would be welcome.
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Nessie
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Could this be the family in 1861?
RG9/3956/55/15
Bongate Appleby St Michael
John Richardson head age 30 parish clerk born Newcastle
Ruth wife age 32 born Long Martin Close
Mary dau age 6 born Bongate
Lewas? son age 3 born Bongate
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maggie smith
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Hi,
It is possable, I will have to look at the rest of the family tree. Many thanks for your reply. But the question is why can't I find them on the 1901 census?
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Nessie
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Thought you also wanted to find out her mothers name 
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maggie smith
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i do I DO, AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE PLEASE, AS I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FAMILY FOR 2 YEARS. oN mARY and Thomas wedding certificate, John Richardson was a Labourer.
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Tati
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Hi Maggie,
Thanks for your PM. I'll post the info here so that you have better chances to get help (there are more competent people than me following this thread!).
Floranna was born on July 15th 1887. If this is her, then her surname is spelt wrong.
You say you don't see them in 1901. Just to make sure : You don't have them in 1891, do you?
What about your own search of 1881? Who are the likely candidates that you have found?
What do you know about Thomas Heslop? Birth year, occupation, father etc.
And Mary, is she plain Mary or Mary something? Heve you found a likely birth for her on FreeBMD?
Is there any specific place you would expect them to live in 1901? Do you know any of Floranna's siblings?
And finally, we're on the Westmorland board. Which county is Asghill supposed to be in?
Sorry, many questions and not a single answer here!
Tanja
BTW: have had a look at the original index: I think it's a mistranscription indeed and should read Heslop.
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maggie smith
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Hi there,
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. Thomas Heslop was a Coal Miner in1882 when Floranna was born. I have her birth Certificate. His fathers name was George,but he was deceased in 1882 when Thoamand Marymarried. I have found a Death Registration on Ancestry .com but I am unsure if it is him. According to the registration George Heslop died aged 53 in MMarch 1880. I have aslso found a Mary Richardson and Jane Richardson, living at 54 Jesmond Riad Jesmond, Newcastle. But are they related of not? As floranna was born at Asghill, Earsdon, where would Mary Richardson original from? I have looked on the 1901 Census, an have a print out of Mary anf Thomas Heslop, but why cant I find Floranna?
rGARDS mAGGIE
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maggie smith
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hi Tati
The witnesses on the wedding cert: of Thomas and Mary are William and Floranna Symington.
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Nessie
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I found William and Floranna Symington in 1891 in Seghill, he was a miner but she was listed as Florence  So as you said Floranna was also known as Florrie I looked for a Florence Heslop on 1901. I only found one of the right age and she was a lodger with the Knox family in Heaton Newcastle at 139 Demark Street.
RG13/4793/30/52
George Knox head age 31 ships rivetter born Wallsend
Mary dau age 3 born Newcastle
Ethel dau age 5 born Newcastle
Florence Heslop boarder age 20 school teacher born Newbiggin
Ann w Knox wife age 31 born Newcastle.
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Tati
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Thanks, Nessie 
I also thought of this:
We could wonder who this Floranna is...
I have a theory with nothing to back it up. If Mary named her daughter Floranna, perhaps they were related?
FreeBMD has a death in Tynemouth in 1849 for a Florannah Richardson, so the name might have run in the family.
Have searched for Floranna in census returns, and see she was born ca. 1859 in Seghill. Searching for a marriage,
I come up with this stunning page in June 1878:
Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland
Bell, Ann
Blackett, John
Richardson, Thomas
Symington, William
1 only bride - 3 grooms, one named Richardson. Went to check on the actual images whether Thomas was a mistranscription for Floranna. Unfortunately, no. (Still wanting this to be their marriage  I don't exclude a mistranscription somewhere)
Anyway, searching for this girl prior to her marriage in 1871, I see this:
Rg10/5131 61 17
25 Blaketown (?), Seghill
John Richardson, head, Coal miner, 52, b. Whitton Globes
Sarah, wife, 52, b. Welburn
Mary, dau, unm, 22, b. Seghill
William, son, unm, 20, Coal miner, b. do.
Flora___ (it could read both Florance or Floranna, I'd dearly like somebody else to have a look) dau, 14, scholar, b. do.
John, son, 8, scholar, b. do.
Isabell, dau, 1, b. do.
This Mary is a few years out. Are you positive about her birth year? Also, you say you have Mary and Thomas in 1901: Where was she born according to it?
Probably clutching at straws but I thought I'd post it anyway 
Tanja
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