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Roecoyle
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Maggie Milne(ms McKay)
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Hi would anyone know of a place called Redorach it could be
a house name or croft or it could be a place name,i have a relative on the 1841 census as living there ..thanks ROE.
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Roecoyle
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Hi Roe
Do you have anything more than just the name ? a parish or district which will narrow down where you need to look. If you locate a nearby town or village try old-maps.co.uk ? They have maps for the whole country and may have one for 1840 - 1860.
You can type in a location then scan across once you have increased the magnification. Scan across about ten mouse clicks each way (West then East) then drop down 2 clicks and go back West again . If there is a hamlet or farm there is a good chance it will be named. It will probably still be there even if the map is later by 10 or 20 years.
I found several tiny places in Kirkcudbrightshire this way
Good hunting
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Thanks ill try that,sorrry about the lack of info ,don`t know where my head was ,its Redorach ,place is tomintoul, Kirkmichael,Banff
don`t know if Redorach is a house place or what,thanks again Roe.
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Hi Roe
There is no listing in the current post code directory for Redorach or anything similar, so it probably exists no longer.
What is the name of your relative living in Redorach?
Alternatively, do what I would do: go into the 1841 census again, and use the 'previous household' and 'next household' buttons to compile a list of all the places in the same enumeration district (in the order they appear in the census). Then get a map of the area (www.streetmap.co.uk is a suitable online one) and see if you can find some of the other places in the same district.
Then go to www.old-maps.co.uk and search the same area as you have identified as above.
HTH
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Roecoyle
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Hi Roe There is no listing in the current post code directory for Redorach or anything similar, so it probably exists no longer. What is the name of your relative living in Redorach? Alternatively, do what I would do: go into the 1841 census again, and use the 'previous household' and 'next household' buttons to compile a list of all the places in the same enumeration district (in the order they appear in the census). Then get a map of the area ( www.streetmap.co.uk is a suitable online one) and see if you can find some of the other places in the same district. Then go to www.old-maps.co.uk and search the same area as you have identified as above. HTH Forfarian |
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Right. It's in ED no 10, and the places listed in the same ED are Bridgend of Aven, Upper Cults, Cults, Fordmouth, St Bridget, Keppack, Stronorn, Redorach, Knockans, Auchnahyle, Torbain and Bellanr(e)ich.
If you look on the contemporary Ordnance Survey Explorer map you can see Fordmouth, St Bridget, Keppoch (Keppack), Cnocan (Knockans), Auchnahyle and Torbain as you make your way south up the river. Between Keppoch and Cnocan is Birchfield, which doesn't appear in the 1841 census.
Just east of Cnocan and Birchfield is Reidh Dorch, which is Gaelic and means "dark plain". Anglicising this would give the name Redorach. You can find it on either www.streetmap.co.uk or www.old-maps.co.uk by searching for grid reference 317497,815161 (Zoom out in Streetmap to see where it is).
However the old map doesn't show any trace of a house there at all!
HTH
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Right. It's in ED no 10, and the places listed in the same ED are Bridgend of Aven, Upper Cults, Cults, Fordmouth, St Bridget, Keppack, Stronorn, Redorach, Knockans, Auchnahyle, Torbain and Bellanr(e)ich. If you look on the contemporary Ordnance Survey Explorer map you can see Fordmouth, St Bridget, Keppoch (Keppack), Cnocan (Knockans), Auchnahyle and Torbain as you make your way south up the river. Between Keppoch and Cnocan is Birchfield, which doesn't appear in the 1841 census. Just east of Cnocan and Birchfield is Reidh Dorch, which is Gaelic and means "dark plain". Anglicising this would give the name Redorach. You can find it on either www.streetmap.co.uk or www.old-maps.co.uk by searching for grid reference 317497,815161 (Zoom out in Streetmap to see where it is). However the old map doesn't show any trace of a house there at all! HTH Forfarian |
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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My g.g.g. grandfather lived at Ridorach or Rhidorach in Kirkmichael. I too concluded it was on the side of Reidh Dorch. There are a few unnamed rectangles on the 1871 map in old-maps.co.uk just south of the burn 'Allt Dubh' and west of the woods on the banks of the A'an - sort of diagonally across from Delavorar. I wonder if these could be the ruins of an abandoned farm?
My ancestor was James Cameron Ridorach who married Ann McLachlan in 7 Sept 1818 (RC) and 8 Sept 1818 (Prot).
Their children were:
1. Margt. Cameron, Daughter, Born 9 AUG 1819 Christened 11 Aug 1819 (RC)
2. Isabel Cameron, Daughter, Christened 17 SEP 1820 (RC)
3. Anne Cameron, Daughter, Christened 13 DEC 1821 (RC)
4. John Cameron, Son, Born 15 APR 1823 Christened 19 APR 1823 (Prot)
5. James Cameron, Son, Born SEP 1824 (Prot)
6. Grace Cameron, Daughter, Born 16 MAR 1826 Christened 22 Mar 1826 (Prot)
and possibly
7. Jean Cameron, Daughter, Born 1837
Grace was my g.g.grandmother and was "of Tyrie" at her marriage so perhaps the whole family migrated to Tyrie before 1841.
The other information I have found (courtesy of Tomintoul Museum) was a couple of references to rents paid by Isabel Cumming for the farm of Ridorach in 1766 and 1767 in the Factors book for the Braes of Stratha'an.
Does your John Riach have any connection with either Cameron or McLachlan families or even the Cummings?
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Hi philwill,sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you,
The first i have on the Riach family from Kirkmichael is William
born about 1710,three generations after all born in Kirkmichael
The last i know of born in Kirkmichael was John born 1819 who is on the 1841 census as living in Redorach with his father (also John) John junior was married in Tyrie in 1843.
I can`t find any of the names you listed(what a pity).
Sorry i could`nt help and good luck ,if you do find anything about Redorach would you share it with me.
Mant thanks Roe.
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