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Dizzy Escape
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Emma Hamlyn
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Can anyone help us out with a search of the 1841 Census for an Emma Hamlyn (aged c. 7)?
In the 1851 Census, she is a seventeen year old house servant in Mile End Old Town, born in Chatham, Kent in c1834. I specifically need to know the name and occupation of her father. Many thanks.
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Shropshire:Cleobury,Hotchkiss,Glover,Oswell
Berkshire:Cheeseman,Monger,Hussey
Montgomeryshire & Merionethshire:Disley
Anglesey & Denbighshire: Hughes,Davies
Flintshire:Hooson
Hertfordshire:Woodcock
Yorkshire:Rich,Goodlad,Hargreaves
Essex:Stace,Hummerstone
Wiltshire:Pike,House,Downe,Eyres,Cole,Appleford,Westhall
Kent:Jones,Bayley,Mille
Devon: Hamlyn
London: Egan,Dixon,Steel,Planck,Debrauder,Rushan,Venile,Fairfax
Surrey: Songhurst,Knight,Street,Sayars
Suffolk: Howe,Spark,Gridley,Bennit
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bearkat
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Census Info. is Crown Copyright, from www.national
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Have you tried looking at the Medway Cityark site for her baptisms - probably at St Mary's?
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=%2FZ4a_Medway_Ancestors%2F%0A&SearchWords=&DateList
If you're lucky it might give father's occupation.
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Dizzy Escape
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What an amazing resource! Sadly there's no sign of her baptism, however.  Will go on trawling (have only gone up to Jan 1837, but she was supposed to have been born c.1834-5). Might have been a late christening, of course. Many thanks.
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Shropshire:Cleobury,Hotchkiss,Glover,Oswell
Berkshire:Cheeseman,Monger,Hussey
Montgomeryshire & Merionethshire:Disley
Anglesey & Denbighshire: Hughes,Davies
Flintshire:Hooson
Hertfordshire:Woodcock
Yorkshire:Rich,Goodlad,Hargreaves
Essex:Stace,Hummerstone
Wiltshire:Pike,House,Downe,Eyres,Cole,Appleford,Westhall
Kent:Jones,Bayley,Mille
Devon: Hamlyn
London: Egan,Dixon,Steel,Planck,Debrauder,Rushan,Venile,Fairfax
Surrey: Songhurst,Knight,Street,Sayars
Suffolk: Howe,Spark,Gridley,Bennit
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casalguidi
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I can't see Emma in Kent in 1841 .................... did you have any luck with a baptism or do you have a potential father from her marriage certificate?
Casalguidi
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Dizzy Escape
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Hello. Thanks. I'm now working on the assumption that the Emma I want is a child aged 6 in the Shoreditch Nursery, Middlesex in the 1841 Census. I already strongly suspect that her father, who was a butcher named William Hamlyn, was the one listed in the St Giles and Bloomsbury Workhouse in 1841. He is described as a butcher there (and 'not born in the county'), and I have his death certificate (he died in 1843 aged either 61 or 66 - difficult to decipher). I have not succeeded in locating her mother or indeed any record of her parents' marriage. And I can't find Emma on any other census. She died aged 35 in 1870 in Rusthall, Kent, married to Charles Lot Cheeseman, a coachman. The Hamlyns are proving to be the most difficult branch of my family tree to climb!
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Shropshire:Cleobury,Hotchkiss,Glover,Oswell
Berkshire:Cheeseman,Monger,Hussey
Montgomeryshire & Merionethshire:Disley
Anglesey & Denbighshire: Hughes,Davies
Flintshire:Hooson
Hertfordshire:Woodcock
Yorkshire:Rich,Goodlad,Hargreaves
Essex:Stace,Hummerstone
Wiltshire:Pike,House,Downe,Eyres,Cole,Appleford,Westhall
Kent:Jones,Bayley,Mille
Devon: Hamlyn
London: Egan,Dixon,Steel,Planck,Debrauder,Rushan,Venile,Fairfax
Surrey: Songhurst,Knight,Street,Sayars
Suffolk: Howe,Spark,Gridley,Bennit
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casalguidi
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When/where did Emma HAMLYN marry Charles Lot CHEESEMAN?
Casalguidi
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Dizzy Escape
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Hello. She married Charles Lot Cheeseman on 30th June 1864 in the Parish Church at Paddington. His address is Rusthall, Kent, and her address is Gloucester Terrace. He's a coachman, but she has no occupation listed. The certificate states that his father is Charles Cheeseman, labourer (I know all about this family - they went back for generations in Beenham in Berkshire) and her father was William Hamlyn, butcher. (Not stated as deceased, but then I've never come across a certificate of this period which has mentioned that a father is deceased even when I know that he is!) (Charles Lot Cheeseman's name was actually 'Lot' - he seems to have added 'Charles' when he married - presumably to avoid her being known as the unfortunate biblical character 'Lot's wife'!
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Shropshire:Cleobury,Hotchkiss,Glover,Oswell
Berkshire:Cheeseman,Monger,Hussey
Montgomeryshire & Merionethshire:Disley
Anglesey & Denbighshire: Hughes,Davies
Flintshire:Hooson
Hertfordshire:Woodcock
Yorkshire:Rich,Goodlad,Hargreaves
Essex:Stace,Hummerstone
Wiltshire:Pike,House,Downe,Eyres,Cole,Appleford,Westhall
Kent:Jones,Bayley,Mille
Devon: Hamlyn
London: Egan,Dixon,Steel,Planck,Debrauder,Rushan,Venile,Fairfax
Surrey: Songhurst,Knight,Street,Sayars
Suffolk: Howe,Spark,Gridley,Bennit
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casalguidi
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As this is an old request you may well have resolved it by now but, if not, I wonder about ...............
Emma HAMLYN dau of William & Johanna, butcher of Seven Dials baptised 8 Feb 1835 St Botolph Bishopsgate (born 23 May 1834).
Baptised the same day to same parents was Ann (born 4 May 1832)
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trish1120
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To add more that you may already have;
Marriage;
William HAMLYN
Johanna SULLIVAN
06 August 1834, Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England
(Extracted record IGI)
Obviously married them baptised children already born.
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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Dizzy Escape
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Thanks for these. Yes, I had them. I think I've got as much info about Emma as I'm going to get. I still don't know what happened to Ann, the sister mentioned here. My long-standing stumbling block is Emma's father, William. I know that he died aged 66 in the St Giles workhouse in 1843 (of a diseased bladder). But I don't know where he was born, because of course he only features on the 1841 census and is 'not born in county'. I'd love to know where he heralded from, but have no idea how to push back this blank wall. 
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Shropshire:Cleobury,Hotchkiss,Glover,Oswell
Berkshire:Cheeseman,Monger,Hussey
Montgomeryshire & Merionethshire:Disley
Anglesey & Denbighshire: Hughes,Davies
Flintshire:Hooson
Hertfordshire:Woodcock
Yorkshire:Rich,Goodlad,Hargreaves
Essex:Stace,Hummerstone
Wiltshire:Pike,House,Downe,Eyres,Cole,Appleford,Westhall
Kent:Jones,Bayley,Mille
Devon: Hamlyn
London: Egan,Dixon,Steel,Planck,Debrauder,Rushan,Venile,Fairfax
Surrey: Songhurst,Knight,Street,Sayars
Suffolk: Howe,Spark,Gridley,Bennit
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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Sorry, I dont know either 
That is what is so good about posting on here as someone may come up with something for you.
Also often another descendant pops up out of the blue with info.
Best of luck with this,
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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