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jericho
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Would it be possible for someone to please check the 1841 census for the following 4 brothers born in Wokingham Berkshire they are the sons of William Shorter and his wife Flora.
William Shorter 1787/1790 James Shorter 1797 Robert Shorter 1805 Thomas Shorter 1808
I have no information on any of these, but would appreciate a look to see if they are still living. Thanks.
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Kiwi living in Australia Ire: McCarthy Fitzgerald Morrissey Nash McGuire Horan Scully Daily Eng: Andrews Vaisey Pead Glover Palmer Searles Rance Shorter Westbrook Watts Widows Seagrey Street Nathan Wright Stanford Walsh Hale Harris Bunton Cole Baker Moles Brown Scot: Dewar Christie Ross NZ McCarthy Morrissey Ross Nash Andrews Dewar Searles Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Jericho,
From your post, you suggest that you have no information about these people.
In 1851 two are still in Wokingham:
Down Street William SHORTER, Head, 59, Agricultural Labourer, b Wokingham Hannah SHORTER, Wife, 59, , Coventry Warwickshire 4 visitors in the household
King Street Robert SHORTER, Head, 47, Agricultural Labourer, Wokingham Sarah SHORTER, Wife, 49, , Canterbury Kent Eliza HOLMES, Daur in Law, 15, Finchampstead Berkshire Rob SHORTER, Son, 19, Agricultural Labourer, Wokingham
My guess is that Eliza HOLMES is actually Step Daughter.
I'll have a look at 1841, but its not in good condition and is not indexed.
Regards Harry
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMy Interests: Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis Cornwall: Cundy Devon: Arscott, Eastlake Essex: Ager, Garrad, Pearmain Hampshire: Noakes Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Shurville Wiltshire: Amor Yorkshire: Fox
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Jericho,
Heres Robert in 1861:
Robert SHORTER, Head, 60, Agricultural Labourer, Wokingham Sarah SHORTER, Wife, 60, , Canterbury Kent James SHORTER, Son 28, Bricklayers Labourer, Hurst Wiltshire John WILLIS, Lodger, 76, Agricultural Labourer, Shiplake Oxfordshire
Note: Hurst Wilts is probably Hurst Berks - bits of Berkshire were part of Wiltshire at one time.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMy Interests: Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis Cornwall: Cundy Devon: Arscott, Eastlake Essex: Ager, Garrad, Pearmain Hampshire: Noakes Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Shurville Wiltshire: Amor Yorkshire: Fox
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HarryW
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Jericho,
1841 census:
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William SHORTER, 50, Ag L, born in County William SHORTER, 22, Ag L, born in County James SHORTER, 17, Ag L, born in County
Those are the only SHORTERs that I can see in 1841, but as I said the images are not good - many unreadable.
Regards Harry
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMy Interests: Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis Cornwall: Cundy Devon: Arscott, Eastlake Essex: Ager, Garrad, Pearmain Hampshire: Noakes Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Shurville Wiltshire: Amor Yorkshire: Fox
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jericho
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Hi HarryW
Would it be possible to see who was staying with William in 1851, and is there any more info that I can have on the 1841 for all three men. Thanks.
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Kiwi living in Australia Ire: McCarthy Fitzgerald Morrissey Nash McGuire Horan Scully Daily Eng: Andrews Vaisey Pead Glover Palmer Searles Rance Shorter Westbrook Watts Widows Seagrey Street Nathan Wright Stanford Walsh Hale Harris Bunton Cole Baker Moles Brown Scot: Dewar Christie Ross NZ McCarthy Morrissey Ross Nash Andrews Dewar Searles Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Jericho,
The four visitors with William SHORTER in 1851 are:
all b Wokingham, unmarried & all Agricultural Labourers
James HUNT 50 Daniel HAWKINS 44 Henry ALDRIDGE 45 James BUTLER 23
In terms of 1841, the inormation supplied is all that was captured on that particular census, relationships and actual places of birth were recorded from 1851.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMy Interests: Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis Cornwall: Cundy Devon: Arscott, Eastlake Essex: Ager, Garrad, Pearmain Hampshire: Noakes Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Shurville Wiltshire: Amor Yorkshire: Fox
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jericho
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Hi HarryW
Thank-you for those extra names, thought that they may provide me with some extra some relatives but I don't recognize any at this stage but one must keep and open mind. Thanks for all your help it was very much appreciated.
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Kiwi living in Australia Ire: McCarthy Fitzgerald Morrissey Nash McGuire Horan Scully Daily Eng: Andrews Vaisey Pead Glover Palmer Searles Rance Shorter Westbrook Watts Widows Seagrey Street Nathan Wright Stanford Walsh Hale Harris Bunton Cole Baker Moles Brown Scot: Dewar Christie Ross NZ McCarthy Morrissey Ross Nash Andrews Dewar Searles Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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In case you go searching for the streets named above.
Down Street was renamed Denmark Street in 1865 when the future Edward VII married Alexandra of Denmark and is one of the three shopping streets in the middle of the town leading from the Market Place.
King Street I don't think was actually in Wokingham Town but in Winnersh now called KIng Street Lane. I could be corrected on that one.
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Living in Berkshire. Origin Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES CAN BE FOUND IN SURNAME INTERESTS AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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jericho
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Hi David
Thanks for that information I will keep it in mind.
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according to the IG1- william shorter married flora watts on the 23rd august 1784 at wokingham,berkshire. baptisms for children of above- william bapt 29th aug 1790 william bapt 13th april 1787 james bapt 14th may 1797 robert bapt 21st dec 1805 thomas bapt 30th oct 1808 mary ann bapt 1st june 1794 sarah bapt 5th jan 1800 hope this helps regards alli
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these marriages in wokingham- william shorter married jane shipman 28th june 1812. william shorter widow married jane ghost also widow 12th nov 1825 robert shorter married sarah johnson 20th nov 1826 james shorter married hannah lowman 4th april 1818
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these burials taken from the NBI in wokingham- william shorter aged 86yrs buried 24th may 1840 william shorter aged 9 months buried 26th oct 1838 there are several other shorters also if you want the names and details let me know alli
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