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1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« on: Monday 28 November 05 20:37 GMT (UK) »

Would it be possible for someone to please check the 1841 census for the following 4 brothers born in Wokingham Berkshire  they are the sons of William Shorter and his wife Flora.

William  Shorter 1787/1790
James    Shorter 1797
Robert   Shorter 1805
Thomas  Shorter 1808


I have no information on any of these, but would appreciate a look to see if they are still living. Thanks.


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Ire: McCarthy Fitzgerald Morrissey Nash McGuire Horan Scully Daily
Eng: Andrews Vaisey Pead Glover Palmer Searles Rance Shorter Westbrook Watts Widows Seagrey Street Nathan Wright Stanford Walsh Hale Harris Bunton Cole Baker Moles Brown
Scot: Dewar Christie Ross
NZ  McCarthy Morrissey Ross Nash Andrews Dewar Searles
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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 November 05 22:21 GMT (UK) »

Jericho,

From your post, you suggest that you have no information about these people.

In 1851 two are still in Wokingham:

Down Street
William SHORTER, Head, 59, Agricultural Labourer, b Wokingham
Hannah SHORTER, Wife, 59,   , Coventry Warwickshire
4 visitors in the household

King Street
Robert SHORTER, Head, 47, Agricultural Labourer, Wokingham
Sarah SHORTER, Wife, 49,  , Canterbury Kent
Eliza HOLMES, Daur in Law, 15, Finchampstead Berkshire
Rob SHORTER, Son, 19, Agricultural Labourer, Wokingham

My guess is that Eliza HOLMES is actually Step Daughter.

I'll have a look at 1841, but its not in good condition and is not indexed.

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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 November 05 22:29 GMT (UK) »

Jericho,

Heres Robert in 1861:

Robert SHORTER, Head, 60, Agricultural Labourer, Wokingham
Sarah SHORTER, Wife, 60,  , Canterbury Kent
James SHORTER, Son 28, Bricklayers Labourer, Hurst Wiltshire
John WILLIS, Lodger, 76, Agricultural Labourer, Shiplake Oxfordshire

Note: Hurst Wilts is probably Hurst Berks - bits of Berkshire were part of Wiltshire at one time.

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Cornwall: Cundy
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Essex: Ager, Garrad, Pearmain
Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 November 05 22:42 GMT (UK) »

Jericho,

1841 census:

Down Street

William SHORTER, 50, Ag L, born in County
William SHORTER, 22, Ag L, born in County
James SHORTER, 17, Ag L, born in County

Those are the only SHORTERs that I can see in 1841, but as I said the images are not good - many unreadable.

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Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis
Cornwall: Cundy
Devon: Arscott, Eastlake
Essex: Ager, Garrad, Pearmain
Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Shurville
Wiltshire: Amor
Yorkshire: Fox
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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 November 05 23:36 GMT (UK) »

Hi HarryW


Would it be possible to see who was staying with William in 1851, and is there any more info that I can have on the 1841  for all three men. Thanks.


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Ire: McCarthy Fitzgerald Morrissey Nash McGuire Horan Scully Daily
Eng: Andrews Vaisey Pead Glover Palmer Searles Rance Shorter Westbrook Watts Widows Seagrey Street Nathan Wright Stanford Walsh Hale Harris Bunton Cole Baker Moles Brown
Scot: Dewar Christie Ross
NZ  McCarthy Morrissey Ross Nash Andrews Dewar Searles
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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 November 05 08:25 GMT (UK) »

Jericho,

The four visitors with William SHORTER in 1851 are:

all b Wokingham, unmarried & all Agricultural Labourers

James HUNT 50
Daniel HAWKINS 44
Henry ALDRIDGE 45
James BUTLER 23

In terms of 1841, the inormation supplied is all that was captured on that particular census, relationships and actual places of birth were recorded from 1851.

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Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis
Cornwall: Cundy
Devon: Arscott, Eastlake
Essex: Ager, Garrad, Pearmain
Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Shurville
Wiltshire: Amor
Yorkshire: Fox
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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 November 05 08:53 GMT (UK) »

Hi HarryW

Thank-you for those extra names, thought that they may provide me with some extra some relatives but I don't recognize any at this stage but one must keep and open mind. Thanks for all your help it was very much appreciated.

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Scot: Dewar Christie Ross
NZ  McCarthy Morrissey Ross Nash Andrews Dewar Searles
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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 November 05 19:23 GMT (UK) »

In case you go searching for the streets named above.

Down Street was renamed Denmark Street in 1865 when the future Edward VII married Alexandra of Denmark and is one of the three shopping streets in the middle of the town leading from the Market Place.

King Street I don't think was actually in Wokingham Town but in Winnersh now called KIng Street Lane.  I could be corrected on that one.

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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 November 05 19:25 GMT (UK) »

Hi David


Thanks for that information I will keep it in mind.


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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 December 05 15:26 GMT (UK) »

according to the IG1-
william shorter married flora watts on the 23rd august 1784 at wokingham,berkshire.
baptisms for children of above-
william bapt 29th aug 1790
william bapt 13th april 1787
james bapt 14th may 1797
robert bapt 21st dec 1805
thomas bapt 30th oct 1808
mary ann bapt 1st june 1794
sarah bapt 5th jan 1800
hope this helps
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worcestershire- stephens
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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 December 05 15:36 GMT (UK) »

these marriages in wokingham-
william shorter married jane shipman 28th june 1812.
william shorter widow married jane ghost also widow 12th nov 1825
robert shorter married sarah johnson 20th nov 1826
james shorter married hannah lowman 4th april 1818
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Re: 1841 Shorter Brothers Wokingham
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 10 December 05 15:42 GMT (UK) »

these burials taken from the NBI in wokingham-
william shorter aged 86yrs buried 24th may 1840
william shorter aged 9 months buried 26th oct 1838
there are several other shorters also if you want the names and details let me know
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