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peterbennett
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mellor, borrett and armitage families on: Thursday 20 May 2004
Dear peter, hi, I am looking for information on pinder mellor born 1859 broadbottom,mottram,cheshire and his son robert mellor 1895-1951. Robert,s wife was bertha borrett 1894-1958 in hyde. Pinder,s wife was Hannah matilda hey. Bertha,s parents were henry borrett 1854-1938 and mary ann armitage 1854-1942 in hyde. Thankyou peter for your help . Also I have a question, How does a person find out obituaries for their ancestors. Thankyou again. Rob King.
Following this P Message I have searched backwards starting around Pinders birth here is what I have up to now.
Pinder Mellor
Born 1859 (Cheshire BMD)
Christened 21st Aug 1859 at Mottrom (IGI)
Father John Mellor (IGI)
Mother Elizabeth Pinder (IGI)
John Mellor married Elizabeth Pinder
1849 St. Micheals Mottram (Cheshire BMD)
b]1841 census HO 107-100-11 folio 15 Summer bottom Mottram[/b]
James Mellor head 50 calico dyer not born in county
Mary ~ wife 50 ~ ~ ~
Sarah ~ daug 20 cotton shaver born in county
Mary ~ ~ 15 ~ ~ ~ ~
Millycsent ~ 15 calico print works ~ ~
John son 12 app. ~ ~ ~Joe ~ 9 ~ ~
1841 census HO 107-100-9 folio 5 Mottram-in-Longdendale
John Pinder head 45 plumber born out of county
Sarah wife 45 ~ ~ ~
Mary daug 20 ? ? ? ~ ~ ~
Jane ~ 20 ? ? ? ~ ~ ~
Joseph son 15 plumbers app. ~ ~
Ann daug 15 weaver born in county
Sarah ~ 14 ~ ~ ~
Elizabeth ~ 13 ~ ~
1861 census sorry no access
1851 to come shortly
1871 Census RG10 4090 folio 63 West End Mottram
John Mellor head 41 dyer at print works born Mottram
Elizabeth wife 42 ~ ~
James W son 17 clerk at print works ~ ~
Pinder son 11 scholar ~ ~
1881 census RG 11-4060 folio 61 Hurst Cresent Mottram
John Mellor head 52 block printer b Broadbottom Mottram
Elizabeth wife 52 Mottram Cheshire
Pinder son 21 joiner BroadbottomGeorge Kinlock boarder 23 chemist Hayfield Derbyshire
1891 census not found
1901 census index http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/
Pinder Mellor 41 Cheshire Broadbottom Cheshire Mottram Joiner And Cabinet Maker
Hannah Mellor 43 Cheshire Mottram Cheshire Mottram
not checked for children
will post again when I have more info.
regards
peterbennett
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Hi,
I am researching the following Stockport names
O'Hara, Froggat, Pearson, Ashton, Fitzsimmons, Johnson, Greacan and vairants... Graycon etc
Thanks
Kay
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dear peter; I wanted to thankyou for your information. rob king
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I have discovered that my greatgrandmother HANNAH READ was born in Wilmslow Cheshire in 1875, but, although I have her marriage certificate (she married WILLIAM E JOYCE in Oct.1891 in Manchester), and know that she died in 1929, I cannot find any trace of her family, apart from she states on her marriage certificate that her father was JOHN THOMAS READ, Brickmaker, deceased, and I found her in the 1901 census, living in Manchester with her husband and 7 year old daughter, Catherine. But her mother is living with them and states her name to be ANN PROCTER, widow, aged 54, born Wilmslow Cheshire.
Why would her mother's name be PROCTER and not READ? Could she have remarried after Hannah's father died? I'm stumped and can't think what to do next. I've tried to send for a birth certificate for HANNAH READ but Stockport register office told me they can't find her. Anyone any suggestions, please?
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Jack
Found this on the 1891 census
RG12/ 3256/ Folio 77/ Page 41 - Bradford, Lancs
Read, Hannah, 17, born Wilmslow, Cheshire, Residence Bradford, Lancashire.
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Chris, thank you SO much! Can you make out which street she's living in? Is she a boarder, perhaps? Her husband (my greatgrandfather) lived in Bradford, so that must be where they met, and I'm wondering if he was nearby.  Thanks again, Marie (Jack33)
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Hi Marie
I will go back into the census and see what extra information I can find
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi again
It looks like Number 8 Hampson Street, and there is another person also called READ in the house as well (last entry on previous page) - see second scan.
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Hi Marie
Found another lodger in Bradford (9th Line down)
RG12/ 3257/ Folio 72/ Page 26 - 19 Brewery?, Bradford, Lancs
Williams occupation is General Labourer
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Chris, you truly are a star! My mother remembers that her grandmother had a sister, Sarah Jane (Sally), who moved to London after she married, so it looks like you may have found her for me.
There's a record of a birth of a Sarah Jane Read in Wilmslow on the Cheshire BMD site, but it's for 1867, not 1869, as I would have expected from the census scan you sent me. Still, I'm going to send for the certificate, and see where that leads me.
And you also found William Edward Joyce.....I knew he was lurking nearby, somewhere!
I can't thank you enough.
Best wishes,
Marie (Jack33) (the odd username was my 16 year old's idea......something to do with his love of heavy rock...don't ask!)
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Hi Marie
Nice to be able to help and glad you found it useful.
Listen to everything mum says, it will be invaluable in later research.
Keep in touch, would love to know what the certificate says.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Marie
Just in case you missed it there is this birth also on the Cheshire BMD
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
READ Hannah Wilmslow Cheshire East WIL/18/55
In the 1881 census is Sarah Jane
No sign of the rest of the family
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
James THORNLEY Head M Male 31 Stockport Licenced Victualler
Ellen S. THORNLEY Wife M Female 35 Dunham, Cheshire, England
Benjamin STOTHER Stepson Male 9 Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England Scholar
Frances M. STOTHER Stepson Male 5 Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England Scholar
Sarah J. REED Serv Female 13 Wilmslow, Cheshire, England General Servant
Source Information:
Dwelling 142 144 Brinksway Rd The Egerton Arms
Census Place Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341832
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3473 / 9
Page Number 11
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peterbennett
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Hi Peter,
I didn't have that information, so thank you very much. As you can probably tell, I'm pretty new to this, although I've done quite a bit of research on my Scottish ancestors (Dad's side), and it is SO much easier!
I only came across this site a couple of days ago, not really expecting much, but I'm overwhelmed by the generosity I've been shown, and I have some definite leads that, I hope, will tell me a lot more about my family history.
Thanks to you, and to Chris, again.
regards,
Marie
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Hi Marie
I think this may be your family in 1871.
1871 Mobberley Ches. RG 10 3680 folio 89 Newton Hall Lane
Charles Peers head w 56 ag/lab Mobberley
Thomas Read son-in-law m 28 ~ ~ Chorley Ches
Ann ~ wife m 23 Wilmslow
Sarah Jane ~ daug 3 ~
Elizabeth ~ ~ 1 Mobberley
It would seem that Ann may have been a Peers and that she and Thomas had another daughter Elizabeth.
I do not have the 1861 census to search but in the 1851 there is know sign of either family. I will keep looking though.
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peterbennett
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