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Re:Cheshire Surname Research
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 07 July 04 11:46 BST (UK) »

Hi Magbet

                Welcome to Rootschat, I may be able to help you with the 1841 Stockport census lookups, unfortunatly the census does not have an index and therefore unless you have an area,street address, or parish it could take forever to search the pages, do you have a street or parish for George and Martha maybe from georges death certificate ? If you have specific questions relating to census and other records it is best to post your queiry on the main board under census lookups, this will get you the most attention from members.
            The main parish church ( All Saints ) in Stockport would be St. Mary's. All other churches came under the umberella of St. Mary's until they started to form there own parishes from the mid 1840's onwards.
  If you can find the parish address for George, I will be only to pleased to search 1841 for you.

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« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 07 July 04 13:47 BST (UK) »

Thanks Peter for the welcome...info...and lookup offer!!!!   Smiley

            I have not been able to locate Stockport death certificate for George I  .....have checked but only record for George Gould dying in (or around) 1849 in Stockport was an 8 month old...perhaps since burial took place in Great Longstone, no record was made in Stockport

I do have burial record from St. Giles in Great Longstone which lists his abode/residence as Stockport (at time of death)....no street was listed

 One grandson was christened at St. Mary's ....so if it is not too much trouble, could you check that parish.

As mentioned George II was cordwainer/shoemaker living on Newbridge Lane in 1830's ...son John was born in 1838 (Stockport Second) and William 1833 ,,,,appears family moved in 1840 or early 1841 to Great Longstone since listed there in 1841 census.

Again thank you!!!!
Mary Ann (magbett)
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« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 07 July 04 14:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter and Chris,
Peter, thanks for the latest info, but I seem to getting more confused than ever!
I received back from Macclesfield the two birth certificates I sent for on Saturday.....not bad service, eh?.....for Hannah Read and Sarah Jane Read.
They confirm that these were sisters (same parents and addresses), but they list father as Thomas Read (Hannah states that her father was JOHN Thomas Read on her marriage certificate), and mother was Ann Read, late Pallant, formerly Morrall.
The father is said to be Labourer in Brickyard (Hannah's marriage reg. states he was a brickmaker).
So, come on fellas, what are the odds that this is the family I'm searching for?
Peter, you say that Ann Read (1871 census) may have been a Peers.  In the 1901 census Hannah has her mother living with her and her husband William E, Joyce, and shes down as Ann PROCTER , widow, 54.
Where do I go from here?
You've both been so helpful, can I ask for more....grovel...grovel.
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Marie Grin
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« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 07 July 04 15:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Marie
           The ref to Marrall and Pallant seem to pan out as follows
                Ann Marrall born Wilmslow 1841
married    William Pallant at Prestbury 1863
                    ~         ~    died at Prestbury 1863 aged 20
This seems to leave Ann as a widow. There is no marriage for Thomas and Ann mentioned in the Cheshire BMD,so it may be they didn't marry but lived as man and wife, which was not unusual at that time.

          Can you provide the birth address's as described on the birth certs, I don't know where the name John Thomas came from, the only J.T.Read born in right area of Cheshire was not born until 1853 so I think you can discount him.
           There was a Thomas Read born Alderley ( Chorley ) Ches in 1844 which seems to be right.
We will I am sure get to the bottom of this it might take some time though, as Thomas and Ann are not on the 1881 census, strange.

      With regards to Ann being a Peers this came from the 1871 where Thomas is described as a son-in-law of Charles Peers I will investigate further this Charles.

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« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 07 July 04 17:00 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter,
You are SERIOUSLY impressing me!
The address given on both Hannah and Sarah's birth certificates is Booth Terrace, Fulshaw, Wilmslow, Cheshire.
This is in both 1867 and 1873.
Anything you can come up would be wonderful.
Thanks once again,
Marie
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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 07 July 04 18:34 BST (UK) »

Hi Marie
           Don't be to impressed, I cant find a Booth anything in Fulshaw or the surrouding townships on the 1871 census. I still think that the 1871 Mobberley details I gave you are the correct family, the way to prove it would be to buy Elizabeths birth cert, I know its expensive but it may prove the family is right or wrong either way we can then move on.
     I will search the 1851 census for Wilmslow tommorrow to see if Ann can be found as a Morrell.
   
bye for now

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« Reply #51 on: Sunday 11 July 04 15:45 BST (UK) »

Hi. My name is Alan and I am researching:
FAIRHURST - Cheshire & Lancs: HALL - Crewe & Derby: BUTTERWORTH - Crewe & Rochdale: MAINWARING - Haslington, Cheshire. JONES - Crewe & Caernarfon.
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« Reply #52 on: Sunday 11 July 04 16:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Alan
         Welcome to Rootschat, can you tell us how far down the line you have got with your Cheshire research, and is thier anything you need help with??

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« Reply #53 on: Sunday 11 July 04 20:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter. Yes indeed. My brick wall at the moment is Thomas FAIRHURST born abt. 1756 place unknoqwn. He died in Middlewich, Cheshire, Feb. 1837 and was buried at St. Michaels, Middlewich.
I'm trying to find a birth/Baptism for him. His Father was Richard FAIRHURST born about 1730 and died in 1804 in Ashton. Thomas's mother's name was Margaret, maiden name unknown at present.
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« Reply #54 on: Monday 12 July 04 16:50 BST (UK) »

Hi
   Not sure if I can suggest anything at the moment other than Cheshire R.O.
   Do you know if Thomas married at all and where? I have a Cheshire Marriage index, you say that his father died in Ashton is that A-on-Mersey or A-under- Lyne??
   It would seem that you have searched some parish records to have got as far back as you have,can you tell me which ones.

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« Reply #55 on: Friday 16 July 04 13:44 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter,
Just wondering if you have had the time to further look into my READ family?  You mentioned looking for Ann MORRELL in the Wilmslow 1851 census.  Any
luck?
There seemed to be a couple of possible leads that you said you may be able to follow.
I've not yet sent for Elizabeth READ's birth certificate, but intend to do so.
Thank you so much for all the time and effort you've put into this for me. Smiley
best wishes,
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« Reply #56 on: Friday 16 July 04 14:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter. We have the baptism entry for Thomas in Davenham. The entry gives his parent's & Grandparents names.
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« Reply #57 on: Friday 16 July 04 14:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter. We have the baptism entry for Thomas in Davenham. The entry gives his parent's & Grandparents names.

Hi Alan
          Glad to hear youv'e cracked this one, would that have been St. Wilfreds church Davenham ? where did you find the record?
The info may help someone else

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« Reply #58 on: Friday 16 July 04 14:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter,
Just wondering if you have had the time to further look into my READ family?  You mentioned looking for Ann MORRELL in the Wilmslow 1851 census.  Any
luck?
There seemed to be a couple of possible leads that you said you may be able to follow.
I've not yet sent for Elizabeth READ's birth certificate, but intend to do so.
Thank you so much for all the time and effort you've put into this for me. Smiley
best wishes,
Marie

Hi Marie
            I havn't forgot you, I have been trying to sort out the correct Morrell family there are a couple with a daughter named Ann both about the right age. Lifes never easy is it. I keep picking it up, scratching my head and putting down again, but I promise a concerted effort this weekend. Let me know when you have birth details for Elizabeth.

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« Reply #59 on: Friday 16 July 04 14:58 BST (UK) »

Thanks, Peter.  I'm away from tomorrow until Thursday (mini break in beautiful Bruges) so will be back in touch when I get back.
regards,
Marie
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