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Topic: marriage 1864 in wokingham (Read 173 times)
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behindthefrogs
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You didn't give an exact date for the marriage but it might be of interest that St Pauls wasn't consecrated until 25 July 1864.
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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1861 james is in aberdare with wife sarah(born Staffordshire) and 4 sons
1871 james is in aberdare -married but no wife with him and 7 sons with him -it doesn't look like he left his sons in Aberdare when he married 2nd sarah
his sons are
James age 8 in 61, 19 in 1871
John 6 in 61, 17 in 71 b Somerset
Joseph 6 in 61, 15 in 71 b Aberdare
Walter 2 in 61 13 in 71 b Aerdare
Abraham 10 in 71 b Aberdare
Isaac 6 in 71 b Aberdare
jacob 4 in 71 b Aberdare
is this the family??
He doesn't seem to have left any of his sons in aberdare?
if you have the birth certs for all of the sons then it will tell you mothers maiden name?
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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here are the census
1861
WS Turnpike Rd
Aberdare glam
james Gillgrass head M 31 Coal Miner Wolkinghm berks
sarah wife 31 Staffordshire
James son 8 Maidenhead Berks
John son 6 Bu?ton Somerset
Joseph son 4 Aberdare glam
Walter son 2 Aberdare glam
mary Phillips servant U 28 House servant Aberdare
RG9 4071 17 34
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33 canon St Aberdare
James Gillgrass head M 42 Beerhousekeeer Wolkingham berks
James son U 19 Collier Bo?ton Somerset
John son 17 Collier Aberdare
Joseph son 15 Collier Aberdare
Walter son 13 Collier Aberdare
Abram son 10 Aberdare
isaac son 6 Aberdare
jacob son 4 Aberdare
Elizth Thomas servant U 25 domestic servant Scotland
John Williams Boarder M 36 Fireman Tredergar mon
Rose A Williams boarder M 32 Silk Weaver Liverpool
Thomas herbert Boarder U 18 Collier Aberdare
RG10 5407 87 14
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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there are 7 sons -not 6
what is the maiden name of the 2 sarahs?
they will be on the birth certs
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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So many sad accidents in the collieries.
So the first sSarah he married was b c. 1830 in Staffordshire ( according to 1861 census) -what was her maiden name? it should be on the birth cert of one of the children.
On the marriage cet to the 2nd sarah (scrivener) was she a spinster -and who were the witnesses ? they may give a clue as to sarah's family
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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I'm not sure this helps really but in 1861 Ann Biggs was in Down Street Wokingham, aged 35, housekeeper to John Gillgrass (55), labourer born Wokingham, and his daughter Hope aged 15. John was a widower. They had a couple of lodgers too.
RG9/750/15/20
I wonder if Sarah was illegitimate? I can't find any likely candidates in 1841/51/61 with a father Richard, but there are a few Sarah Scriveners around in various places, servants with no identifiable family.
Who was the other witness to the marriage?
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Bintcliffe, Simpson, Taylor, Tempest, Gee, Singleton, Helm,
Summerscales, Baldwin,,Bolton, Kitson, Gledhill, Lockwood,
Chadwick, Brearley, Gaukrodger
All from Halifax/Huddersfield area of West Yorkshire
Hopton Gloucestershire
Millinchip Worcestershire
Francis Monmouthshire
Walker Wiltshire
Springall Bucks
Mickle Berkshire
Day, Ven Somerset
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But what was the name of the witness who "made their mark"?
(this wasn't uncommon at that time -many had never been taught to read and write -and sometimes even if a bride could write , if he husband made his mark, then she would too)
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