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Julie
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Hello to all, 
I am new at this, so if anyone could be of any help would be greatly appreciated.
My grandfather Thomas George King married my grandmother in 1939 in Fulham, their marriage was dissolved. But when I do not know? ?
As my grandmother remarried in 1960. So the qustion is, if he remarried, it would be in the time of 1939 to 1960 where do I go from here, to find out if he remarried. I have looked up him in the BMD UK. But come up with not a thing.
If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.
Julie
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Rick
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Julie
FreeBMD is an ongoing project, and so is incomplete. You need to go through the complete indexes. They are available at most UK County Record Offices and at the FRC in London.
If you live abroad, you can also view them at your nearest LDS Family History Centre, or online at http://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/, this is a pay to view site however.
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Julie
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Hi Rick
Thank you for your help.
I now understand why,I could not find the marriage on the free BMD, as you said it is still an ongoing project. I have also looked at LDS family history centre, but with no luck there. 
I will see if I have any luck with 1837 online.
Thanks
Julie
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Julie
The GRO indexes are not online at the LDS. You have to physically go to your nearest centre. To find out where your nearest is, go to;
http://www.familysearch.org/
Select; "Find a Family History Centre near you..........." (underneath Family History Library System.)
Good Luck
Rick
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Julie
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Hello Rick
I looked up the nearest centre to me, but I am a bit out of town to the nearest LDS family history centre.
So I am a bit lost on what to do now.
I would greatly appreciated if you or anyone else how reads this post, could do a look up for me the next time they are at a LDS family history centre.
Marriage look up for Thomas George King.
Dates are from 1939 to 1960. in the uk area.
I would sincerely appreciate it. 
Thanks
Julie.
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I am afraid that I will not be going in the near future, but hopefully someone else might be.
It might be worth posting a new request for a GRO index lookup, and/or you can still try accessing them yourself online at 1837 online.
http://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/
Good Luck!
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Julie
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Hello Grandad James
Thank you ever so much with a reply in my quest for help.
Silly me should have put in Thomas George King birth and death information. 
He was born on the 7 April 1908 Surbiton and died in the June Quarter 1978 in Surrey.
To who registered his death is unknown to me yet as I don't have his death certificate at this stage.
His was 32 years when he married my grandmother in Fulham .
So if he did remarried, it would have to be in the time of 1939 to 1960 as we know the marriage between the two was dissolved, as my grandmother remarried in 1960, OR after 1960 to 1978.
If you can help any further I would greatly appreciate it.
With Thanks
Julie
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Grandad james
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Hi Julie,
I would go for his death certificate.
There is no guarentee that a member of the family will have registered it but as far as I am concerned you have an uphill task ,because even if you manage to find some potential marriges in the period I cannot see how you will know which one is his without purchasing them.
So you may get a clue from the death cert.
Also I would consider all the less obvious clues that you may have or obtain.
The reason I mentioned are there any addresses is that
there may be someone who has a little knowledge or resource that may help.
Again by coincidence , as well as working and living in Fulham I was born in Surbiton and went to School there .
So if you also want to try and get to know something more " putting flesh on the bones" as they say ,I may well have some local knowledge.
I would not like to hazard a guess at how many Thomas
George KING's married in your period and of course if he did marry he could be indexed as just Thomas.
You have got me hooked on this one as I also knew a couple of King families. I went to school with a Graham
King who would have been born around 1941-2. Giving my age away. ![](http://fool.exler.ru/sm/old.gif">)
And a King family lived in my road . Hugh King would have been born in the late 40s early 50s.
One other thing, may not help , but what Surrey Reg Dist was his death .Mid East ,North, Southwest etc.
regards
Grandad james.
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BOORER/BORER/BORRER/BOARER,Origins in
Surrey,Sussex,Kent and London.
BOORER/BORER? Registered One Name Study -WORLDWIDE.
ELLIS Richmond Surrey. Fletching Sussex
FREEMAN Chertsey , Isleworth Middx and Richmond Surrey.
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Julie
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Hello Grandad James
I don't know the Reg Dist of Thomas death yet, I am still working on it.
Thomas King's family lived at 2 Richmond Grove Surbiton Hill, during the time of WW1.
He had 2 sisters and 3 other brothers. All born in Surbiton, Surrey, near Kingston on Thames bar one.
To King families that you know of,
Do you know their parents names, as you have me curious.
With Thanks
Julie
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Julie
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Hello GJ
Thank you for your reply.
If you come up if anything in your Surbiton resources, I would greatly appreciate it.
With Thanks
Julie
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Julie
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Hello GJ
I have received the death certificate for Thomas George King and I must say it has left me a bit puzzled. 
He died in the Surrey South Eastern, place of death was at Hundred Acres, Banstead??.
So with that, I did some further searching and found, what I think was Hundred Acres. Was the Banstead Mental Hospital. 
I think it might have been known as Hundred Acres back then. But I am not 100% sure on this.
If you have any knowledge on this? I would be very grateful.
He lived at Barton House, Wandsworth Bridge Road SW6
which I have found out to be a block of flats. So from there I have written to the council of SW6 to ask if they keep any records of past resident.
But what has me left me very puzzled is the informant who singed his death certificate.
Her name was Patricia Mangiacapre from New York?? and was a Niece to Thomas.
So I am not quite sure where to go from here?
As I think I read in one of your last post that you have some knowledge of the US.
If you could help me out on this one I would sincerely appreciate it.
As I feel I am getting closer, I still hit large brick walls that just won't let me through, which I think most of us can relate too.
As I have tried to find her but with no luck.
With thanks
Julie
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Hello Julie ,
This is getting a little spooky as there are so many coincidences , but they are only coincidences .
I lived in Fulham from 1965- 1967 and worked there
from 1961-1973.
I also know that there were a series of mental Hospitals around Epsom and Banstead and some were for people with dementia due to senility as opposed to ,for want of a better expression, lunacy etc. What was the cause of death.
100 acres rings a bell and I will see if I can find anything.
As far as the niece is concerned this is a right poser...
as she is obviously not the unmarried daughter of a male King. But could have married and where ,or thew daughter of a sister or really any one of a number of other possibilities.
A thought ,does it say New York US as there is another New York in Lincolnshire.
All my New York research was around 1890-1900 but I found the rootswen New York mailing list most helpful.
However I fear the same problems may arise and of course she still could be living...privacy etc.
With a name like MANGIACAPRE I would have a search on Ellis Island database , nothing to loose but may get a clue,such as possible country of origin of the name .
I would think that any resource that has asearch facility is worth a look with that name . Have you googled it??
Cluching at straws I'm afraid.
I have a think and a dabble and get back to you,
Does it give a UK address for her.??
Best wishes
Gj
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BOORER/BORER/BORRER/BOARER,Origins in
Surrey,Sussex,Kent and London.
BOORER/BORER? Registered One Name Study -WORLDWIDE.
ELLIS Richmond Surrey. Fletching Sussex
FREEMAN Chertsey , Isleworth Middx and Richmond Surrey.
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Julie
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Hello GJ
Thank you for helping me on this one GJ.
Thomas George King died of Bronchopneumonia, Cerebral Atrophy.
I know a friend how is in the medical field and asked her what is Cerebral Atrophy? I was told it is a form of dementia.
So I think that could have been the reason why Thomas was at Hundred Acres, but not knowing for sure that Hundred Acres is or was Banstead Mental Hospital am I still not 100% on that.
Patricia Mangiacapre. She lived in Syosset, New York.
Could that help in any way?
Thomas brothers names, & DOB
Francis Eric King, 11 July 1904,
Arthur Edgar King, 3 September 1906,
Alfred Henry King, 26 August 1911
{All born in Surbiton}
Thomas Sisters names, & DOB
Hilda Almond May King, 21 May 1900.
{Born in Great Shelford, Cambridge}
Florence Minnie King, 9 August 1905.
{ Born in Surbiton}
Is there any way to find out whom they married?
Just hopping that it might give some info to Patricia Mangiacapre.
I have done a gooled search for Patricia Mangiacapre but with no luck there.
Once again thank you and I do sincerely appreciate your help.
Cheers
Julie
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