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1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« on: Sunday 18 December 05 21:13 UTC (UK) »

I am looking for James Robertson who would be around 22 years old in 1841.  He married Agnes Munro in 1840 in Dumbarton. 
I have a child Isabella who according to her marriage certificate in 1875 was 22 years old, making her birth in 1853.  However her death record in 1892 shows her as being 34 years of age, making her birth in 1858. 
I have two other children - James born in 1856 and Agnes born in 1855.  All three children were born in Dumbarton.

Any info on this family would be appreciated.

William
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Re: 1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 December 05 21:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi William,

Do you mean that you think that Isabella, James and Agnes were the children of James and Agnes?

If so, do you think they had more children prior to Isabella (born 1853/58) or Agnes (born 1855)? It's unusual for a first child to be born more than a couple of years after the coupl'e marriage.

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Re: 1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 December 05 04:33 UTC (UK) »

I am afraid I don't have access to the 1841 or 1851 but here are the details for the 1861 census I think this is your family:


Address is 4 Church Street, Dunbarton.

James Robertson, aged 43 Operative mason born in perthshire

Agnes Robertson aged 38 wife, born in Dunbarton

Mary Robertson aged 17 daughter born in Dunbarton a domestic servant

Christina Robertson age 15 born in Dunbarton, a domestic servant

Isabella Robertson aged 9 born in Dunbarton, a scholar

Duncan Robertson aged 4 born in Dunbarton

Janet Munrow aged 2 a Relative born in dunbarton


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Mo Cheesy
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Re: 1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 December 05 12:58 UTC (UK) »

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Do you mean that you think that Isabella, James and Agnes were the children of James and Agnes?

If so, do you think they had more children prior to Isabella (born 1853/58) or Agnes (born 1855)? It's unusual for a first child to be born more than a couple of years after the coupl'e marriage.

Anne

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Hi Anne,

Isabella's marriage and death records indicate that she is the daughter of James Robertson and Agnes Munro(e).  The other two children were found on IGI and are submitted records.  I am curious why there is such a large timespan from their marriage and Isabella's birth, as she appears to be the earliest.

William
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Re: 1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 December 05 13:12 UTC (UK) »

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 I think this is your family:


Address is 4 Church Street, Dunbarton.

James Robertson, aged 43 Operative mason born in perthshire

Agnes Robertson aged 38 wife, born in Dunbarton

Mary Robertson aged 17 daughter born in Dunbarton a domestic servant

Christina Robertson age 15 born in Dunbarton, a domestic servant

Isabella Robertson aged 9 born in Dunbarton, a scholar

Duncan Robertson aged 4 born in Dunbarton

Janet Munrow aged 2 a Relative born in dunbarton


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Mo Cheesy
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Hi Mo,

Thanks, this looks a strong possibility.  I will check this out.  I have Agnes Robertson born 1818 but that could be wrong.  Her maiden name was Munro(e) and her mother's name was Janet which would explain the relative aged 2. 

The date for Isabella would tie in with the marriage record and the older sisters would explain the time gap from her parents marriage in 1840.

Many thanks,

William
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Re: 1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 December 05 20:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mo,

This looks like the right family.  I have found a James Robertson born in Dull, Perthshire in 1817.  His parents were James Robertson and Janet Moncrief.  This would tie in with their son James Moncrief Robertson who was born in Dumbarton in December 1856.  This would have made him 4 years old at the time of the census.  Could he have been a twin to Duncan ? 
I wonder where Agnes (6) and James (4) have gone?

My records also confirm that James Robertson was a Mason Journeyman.

Many thanks

William

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Re: 1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 December 05 21:56 UTC (UK) »

James Montcrief Robertson died aged August 14 1882 not married son of James Robertson and Agnes Monroe..

Agnes Robertson married James Storie and died in 1883 of TB aged 28

Will keep looking for them on the 1861 census


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Mo
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Re: 1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 December 05 22:01 UTC (UK) »

OOPS------------ Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed   mea culpa

I left out Agnes aged 6 born in Dunbarton from the 1861 census...

I missed her totally wasn't till I went back to the image... sorry

Mo

PS Found the family again on the 1871 this time james is there supposedly aged 12... hmmmm am totally confused now...

Mo
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Re: 1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 December 05 08:12 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks again Mo.

Was Duncan shown on the 1871 Census?  What age is shown as? 
You said that he was 4 in 1861 so that would have made his birth 1856/7.  However the census was in April 1861 and James was born December 1856. So either the age is wrong or James and Duncan were twins.  I can find no sign of Duncan on Scotlandspeople website between 1840 and 1861 born in Dumbarton.

The Janet Munrow age 2 you mentioned appears to be the Daughter of Agnes Robertson's brother Alexander Munro.

William

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Re: 1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06 April 06 23:29 UTC (UK) »

Hello: This will not help your family search in any way directly, but since it is about older censuses I thought I would throw in my two cents. I have found two entries
( 1861, 1851) where the wife was recorded with her maiden name, and the children with the father's last name. This actually helped me a lot.   

I also have many entries where the ages, and surnames are different every single time. I notice women tend to age very slowly between censuses. I try to remember that many people did not know how to read or write and therefor didn't know if their demographics were being recorded accurately.  I also found that some of my ancestord  had children that died so it was many years before a living child. Then there was a bunch , and then another gap.  This may be the case with your group.  Sorry for butting in , but it was an interesting thread dealing with these anomalies.   Donna
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