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Topic: 1861 and 1871 Census - Henry Townsend, Devon (Read 401 times)
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Aussie possum
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Looking for Henry and Eliza Townsend in both these census. They were at Witheridge at the time of the 1851 census, so this might be a good place to start. (Although looking at the birth places of the children in 1851 census, it looks like they had already discovered travel!......(sigh!)....so much easier when they lived, married and died all in the same village!
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tarajobrien
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i can look at 1871 census. Do you have the parents ages and birthplaces as there are quite a few Townsend's. Any children's names age, birthplaces??
Tara
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Hertfordshire(Anstey, the Hadham, Reed, Standon): Gault, Hoy, Miles, Smith
Shropshire(Aston Botterell,Burwarton,Stoke St Milborough,Wheathill): Angell, Blackmore, Blakemore, Bennett, Pheysey
Essex(Dunmow,West Ham): Allen, Blackmore, Carr, Sutton
Warwickshire(Birmingham,Edgbaston): Angell
Yorkshire(Doncaster,Hull): Brooks, Doe
London/Middlesex area(Battersea,Wandsworth, Willesden): Angell, Brooks, Carr, Carswell, Salkind
Norfolk (Norwich,Nth Walsham,Lynn,Gt Yarmouth): Carr, Salkind
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Hi U didnt give au much 2 go on here if fact I had to bring up the 51 to get any detail on the family and am having no luck in 71 census
Here is a poss for son john
RG10/2098 ED2 Folio 30 Page 16 Entry 96
Hasburtonford
Harberton Devon
John Townsend Head 41 b Culmstock Devon Police Constable 1st class
Elizabeth J Townsend Wife 20 b East Allington Devon
Still looking Kris
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Sorry Aussie Possum Just realised this isnt even the right John either as your John was the first birth in Somersert after they had left Culmstock. Sorry About that .... a large family born in diff places...lol...
After all this having to get details from 51 first and sadly I still Cannot find a single one of them in 1871 .......tried every trick I can think of and can't find a solitary one of them and I don't think anybody has the 61 for Devon.
Pity bout that I tried!
Kris
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Oops, I really didn't give everyone much info, did I? I'm still recovering from flu and not functioning 100 percent. Henry was born about 1799 in Culmstock, and Eliza about 1806 in Culmstock. They had ten children at home in the 1851 census, so hopefully for their sakes by 1861 they had started to thin them out a bit. There is also a chance they could have been back in Somerset. Henry is still alive in 1881 living with a son in Somerset, so I am really trying to get a handle on this branch of the family's movements.
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wonder if that is y I cant find any of the family.  with such a large family u would think at least some of them would appear ....Kris
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Just doing a bit of housekeeping on the Devon Board. Are you still looking for this or have you since found the information? Just confirming if some of these older requests are still required. Kris 
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Hi
this could be them in 1861
addr: Harwood, Luccombe Somerset
RG9/1601, ed 4, folio 63, pg 1
Townsend
Henry abt 1800 Culmstock, Devon, England Head farmer of 240 arces of land employing 4 men and 2 boys
Elizabeth abt 1839 Sampford Arundel, Devon, England Daughter
Charles abt 1841 Witheridge, Devon, England Son
William abt 1845 Witheridge, Devon, England Son
Caroline abt 1848 Witheridge, Devon, England Daughter
William May abt 1857 Cornwall, England Visitor
George Baker abt 1845 Culmstock, Devon, England Servant plough man
Jane Bowdin abt 1847 Timberscombe, Somerset, England Servant dairy maid
Henry is married and there is a blank line on the census below him as if his wife should have been written there.
enjoy
Tara
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Hertfordshire(Anstey, the Hadham, Reed, Standon): Gault, Hoy, Miles, Smith
Shropshire(Aston Botterell,Burwarton,Stoke St Milborough,Wheathill): Angell, Blackmore, Blakemore, Bennett, Pheysey
Essex(Dunmow,West Ham): Allen, Blackmore, Carr, Sutton
Warwickshire(Birmingham,Edgbaston): Angell
Yorkshire(Doncaster,Hull): Brooks, Doe
London/Middlesex area(Battersea,Wandsworth, Willesden): Angell, Brooks, Carr, Carswell, Salkind
Norfolk (Norwich,Nth Walsham,Lynn,Gt Yarmouth): Carr, Salkind
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tarajobrien
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here are 2 other Townsend's born in Witheridge, , not sure if they might be more of the children
Eliza abt 1843 Witheridge, Devon, England Apprentice living St Mary Magdalen Somerset
Eliza Lucy abt 1850 Witheridge, Devon, England Sister-in-law living Combe Florey Somerset
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Hertfordshire(Anstey, the Hadham, Reed, Standon): Gault, Hoy, Miles, Smith
Shropshire(Aston Botterell,Burwarton,Stoke St Milborough,Wheathill): Angell, Blackmore, Blakemore, Bennett, Pheysey
Essex(Dunmow,West Ham): Allen, Blackmore, Carr, Sutton
Warwickshire(Birmingham,Edgbaston): Angell
Yorkshire(Doncaster,Hull): Brooks, Doe
London/Middlesex area(Battersea,Wandsworth, Willesden): Angell, Brooks, Carr, Carswell, Salkind
Norfolk (Norwich,Nth Walsham,Lynn,Gt Yarmouth): Carr, Salkind
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tarajobrien
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here they are in 1871
addr: Hawrood farm, Luccombe
RG10/2349, ed 4, folio 4, pg 2
Townsend
Henry 72 Culmstock, Devon, England Head farmer of 150 arces employing 2 men Widow
Caroline 23 Witheridge, Devon, England Daughter housekeeper
William 23 Witheridge, Devon, England Son
Dina Webber abt 1855 Cavampton, Somerset, England Servant
Thomas Winter abt 1857 Cavampton, Somerset, England Servant
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Hertfordshire(Anstey, the Hadham, Reed, Standon): Gault, Hoy, Miles, Smith
Shropshire(Aston Botterell,Burwarton,Stoke St Milborough,Wheathill): Angell, Blackmore, Blakemore, Bennett, Pheysey
Essex(Dunmow,West Ham): Allen, Blackmore, Carr, Sutton
Warwickshire(Birmingham,Edgbaston): Angell
Yorkshire(Doncaster,Hull): Brooks, Doe
London/Middlesex area(Battersea,Wandsworth, Willesden): Angell, Brooks, Carr, Carswell, Salkind
Norfolk (Norwich,Nth Walsham,Lynn,Gt Yarmouth): Carr, Salkind
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I had found the main part of the family on the Somerset census, thanks, but I don't know why Henry's wife is missing in 1861 or where she is. I did not know about Eliza at St Mary Magdalen and she is definitely one of the family. I don't know who the married Townsend is at Combe Florey. Did it give the details of who the husband was?
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Here is the household, and this could be Eliza with them!
addr: Nethercott, Combe Florey Somerset
RG9/1620, ed 7, folio 81, pg 9
Burrough
Richard abt 1832 Coombe St Nicholas, Somerset, England Head farmer of 112 acres.
Jane abt 1837 Langford Amundel, Somerset, England Wife
James abt 1860 Luccombe, Somerset, England Son
Eliza Townsend abt 1806 Bathealton, Somerset, England Mother-in-law
Eliza Lucy Townsend abt 1850 Witheridge, Devon, England Sister-in-law
Sarah Bowering abt 1846 Luaborough, Somerset, England Servant
John Hillen abt 1846 Lydeard St Lawrence, Somerset, England Servant
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Hertfordshire(Anstey, the Hadham, Reed, Standon): Gault, Hoy, Miles, Smith
Shropshire(Aston Botterell,Burwarton,Stoke St Milborough,Wheathill): Angell, Blackmore, Blakemore, Bennett, Pheysey
Essex(Dunmow,West Ham): Allen, Blackmore, Carr, Sutton
Warwickshire(Birmingham,Edgbaston): Angell
Yorkshire(Doncaster,Hull): Brooks, Doe
London/Middlesex area(Battersea,Wandsworth, Willesden): Angell, Brooks, Carr, Carswell, Salkind
Norfolk (Norwich,Nth Walsham,Lynn,Gt Yarmouth): Carr, Salkind
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Well done, Tara! I had always thought that would be likely that Eliza would be with one of the children, but I wondered how many census films I would have to plough through to find out.
What is strange is that they had 2 Eliza's for daughters.....the one born 1843 in Witheridge, and the one in 1850 in Witheridge. The younger one is "Lucy" on a later census. They must have liked the name!
Thanks once again
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Do you happen to have access to who the Eliza at St Mary Magdalen is with as an apprentice?
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tarajobrien
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here are her details
14 and 15 North St, St Mary Magdalen,Taunton
RG9/1616, ed 1, folio 5 pg 4
head is Augustus Chubb, he is a linen draper
Eliza is a draper's assistant.
Augustus has 4 draper's assistants and 8 draper's apprentices.
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Hertfordshire(Anstey, the Hadham, Reed, Standon): Gault, Hoy, Miles, Smith
Shropshire(Aston Botterell,Burwarton,Stoke St Milborough,Wheathill): Angell, Blackmore, Blakemore, Bennett, Pheysey
Essex(Dunmow,West Ham): Allen, Blackmore, Carr, Sutton
Warwickshire(Birmingham,Edgbaston): Angell
Yorkshire(Doncaster,Hull): Brooks, Doe
London/Middlesex area(Battersea,Wandsworth, Willesden): Angell, Brooks, Carr, Carswell, Salkind
Norfolk (Norwich,Nth Walsham,Lynn,Gt Yarmouth): Carr, Salkind
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