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smuckerooney
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Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« on: Tuesday 20 December 05 21:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Folks,
             Can any budding historian tell me the history of Woodilee Cottages in Lenzie?  I believe it used to be in Stirlingshire before East Dunbartonshire....any help for a friend would be appreciated.

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Rog
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kali
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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 December 05 22:21 UTC (UK) »

hi rog,
had a quick look and it seems that 1669 lenzie was in aberdeenshire, hope that helps,   kali,   Shocked  have a nice christmas.
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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 December 05 22:31 UTC (UK) »

if you would like to google (woodilee cottage lenzie) you come up with a lot of sights, including war memorials of lenzie and folk living in woodilee cottages who lost family in the wars etc., give it a go,  kali.
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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 December 05 00:21 UTC (UK) »

Lenzie can be seen on the 1890s parish map to be split across the county boundary of Stirlingshire (Kirkintilloch parish) and Dunbartonshire (Cadder parish).

http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/os_scotland_2nd_ed_list.html
Sheet 31 - Airdrie
These parishes are the blue and the orange ones midway up the west side of the map.

If Lenzie was ever in Aberdeenshire, I can only imagine that to have been another Lenzie.

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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 December 05 20:29 UTC (UK) »

hi adp,
           had another check and lenzie is in aberdeenshire in 1669, you can find this info on:- scottish roots: parishes and counties,
  have a very merry christmas, all the best,   kali.
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Clare Fowler
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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 December 05 20:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi there,

I believe it will have been considered part of Kirkintilloch parish, so I would guess Dunbartonshire.

Kali, I am intrigued about the Aberdeenshire connection.  I grew up in Kirkintilloch ("attached" to Lenzie), which is about 10 miles from the centre of Glasgow.  Is there another Lenzie in Scotland?  I know it is a real possibility given the number of Tarbets and Ballochs that we have  Smiley

Cheers,
Clare
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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 December 05 21:03 UTC (UK) »

hi clare,
            i have never been to scotland in my life but i searched to see if lenzie was in a diferent county in years gone by, and yes it is dunbartonshire and kirkintilloch, but when i found the site mentioned below i found that for some time from 1669 that it was in aberdeenshire,
possibly there is another lenzie i really do not know but the info is there in black and white as they say, from the scottish roots ancestral research services, take a look at there site,
  with all the best wishes for christmas and the new year,     kali.
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Clare Fowler
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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 December 05 21:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi there,

I was getting very confused there Kali  Undecided  But you learn pretty quickly that there are multiple towns with the same name in Scotland - causing all sorts of issues!!

As for the cottages, I just called my mum who has lived in Kirkintilloch for over 40 years.  Woodilee cottages were built as housing for the 'key workers' in Woodilee Hospital/Asylum.  Her closest friend from school grew up there as her father was a secretary for the hospital.  So the history of the cottages goes hand in hand with the hospital.  Obviously with the closure of the hospital, the cottages are now privately owned (as far as I am aware anyway).  Searching for Woodilee hospital or asylum should help in this.  They are located almost exactly on the 'border' between Kirkintilloch and Lenzie.  I would guess that whatever county Kirkintilloch is in, the cottages will be also.

Cheers,
Clare
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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 December 05 21:20 UTC (UK) »

i googled for woodilee cottage lenzie and came up with a load of info in fact one of the cottages is up for sale at this moment (if your interested),
but found a site with war memorials etc. for lenzie.   kali.
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CENSUS INFORMATION IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk names i am researching are-KUHNELL PRUSSIA, GERMANY U S A  AUSTRALIA SOLOMON ISLANDS WALES, ANDREWS NORTHAMPTON, LOVELL AND TAYLOR PORTISHEAD, BRISTOL AREA  AND PENMARK WALES.
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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 December 05 23:37 UTC (UK) »

hi clare,
            i have never been to scotland in my life but i searched to see if lenzie was in a diferent county in years gone by, and yes it is dunbartonshire and kirkintilloch, but when i found the site mentioned below i found that for some time from 1669 that it was in aberdeenshire,
possibly there is another lenzie i really do not know but the info is there in black and white as they say, from the scottish roots ancestral research services, take a look at there site,
  with all the best wishes for christmas and the new year,     kali.

I think the list you were looking at must have been skewed. Lenzie is shown as Dumbartonshire (no OPRs as it was not a parish in its own right). The next one alphabetically on the list is Leonel Cushnie in Aberdeenshire, with OPRs dating from 1669. Lenzie is over 100 miles south(ish) from Aberdeenshire.

If you are viewing the list on that website on SVGA (800x600), the counties and parishes go out of line (as Lamington and Wandell then takes up two lines, while the county only moves down by one line), giving you the Lenzie, Aberdeenshire error. If you use XGA (1024x768) or higher, you will not see this error. The writer of that webpage obviously never checked how it displayed on lower resolution displays.

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Re: Lenzie...which County in circa 1900?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 December 05 23:43 UTC (UK) »

hi adp,
           my mistake then, but it looked o.k. to me though Lips Sealed
must try harder next time, my apologies to all concerned,   kali. Wink
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CENSUS INFORMATION IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk names i am researching are-KUHNELL PRUSSIA, GERMANY U S A  AUSTRALIA SOLOMON ISLANDS WALES, ANDREWS NORTHAMPTON, LOVELL AND TAYLOR PORTISHEAD, BRISTOL AREA  AND PENMARK WALES.
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