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Keith Bateman
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Hi Anna,
Although lots of my relations lived in Ware - I live in Shropshire so don't know to much about the actual town.
Have you tried this site for a map of Ware in 1883?
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
On the enlarged view it shows the Congregational Chapel - with land at the side ( as well as being very near to a Malthouse!!)
It is in the middle of both St Marys and Christ Church.
I am sure some one with more local knowledge might know more!!
Cheers
Keith
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Ann12
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Hi Keith,
Many thanks for the info. I have looked many times at this map (mostly Wareside area) and haven't really found what I am looking for!!
Re. the Chapel co-ordinates (I can't see it for looking!!) could you explain it in female terms (eg. left, right, up down, middle etc??)
Thanks
Anna 
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linmey
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Hi Anna,
I live very near to Ware so if you find out any information and you would like me to have a look at the site for you I would be happy to do so. It will have to wait until after christmas when I have some holiday. Also, my mother is a keen local historian and knows a lot about Ware so I can also check stuff out with her.
The Ware museum is excellent and their web site may be worth checking out.
Regards Linmey.
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Keith Bateman
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Hi Anna,
One the enlargement it is above the "Y" of Railway just above "High St"
2 roads up the map!!
Does that work??
Cheers
Keith
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linmey
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No problem Anna. What better way of working off the christmas turkey.
Seriously though, Ware is a lovely little town and I often just wander around the old streets and the Priory and visit the museum. I have been involved with a few archaeological digs in the area as well.
Best wishes Linmey.
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linmey
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Hi Anna, I had a word with my mother about the congregational chapel and she says she thinks it has a court yard round it but of course it may have had more land than that previously.
She suggested though that the burial ground may possibly have been located away from the chapel as was the case with the Quaker burial ground in the neighbouring town of Hertford. I dont know if it was usual for a chapel that perhaps had less space in the centre of town than the big CofE parish churches to use a space further out of town.
best wishes Linmey.
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I am not sure whether you have worked out how the churches would have merged. Ware Congregational Church probably became Ware United Reform Church around 1970. It is that church which would have merged with the Methodists to form the Leaside church.
What is not immediately clear is whther the building now occupied is the old Methodist or Congrgational Church. From the photograph it is old enough to have been one of them.
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linmey
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I believe the current Leaside church was built in 1859 and is on the site of the previous chapel building which is the one that Annas relatives would have attended. Leaside is the amalgamation of the United Reform and Methodist churches.
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Hi Linmey & behindthefrogs!!
Many thanks for your replies, I did find out that the various churches merged, the last being somewhere in the 70's (I think??)
If I am correct people couldn't get married in a meeting house/chapel until sometime early 1800s, so possibly the same goes for burials as well. If think Linmey that your mother is right in saying that a burial ground could be located somewhere else, maybe a local CofE.
Thanks again for your help
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linmey
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Hi Anna, St. Marys is the largest and oldest of the parish churches although I believe the churchyard has been divided up by a road at some point. I wonder if Anglican churches had a non- conformist corner for burials in their churchyard. Behindthefrogs may have the answer to that one.
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linmey
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Looking at a previous thread it looks like there could have been an unconsecrated section of a burial ground that was for non- conformists.
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