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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 21:16 GMT (UK) »

Never thought of that one.
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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 21:22 GMT (UK) »

I didn't think of that either - shows what a bit of lateral thinking can achieve.

I can just picture all the graves and headstones along a pathway leading to a church - at least you wouldn't linger on the way to church (unless you were one of us and we would want to read every one  Grin)
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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 21:27 GMT (UK) »

I can check on the origins of the name Dead lane, but as there are so many chapels there which at one time probably had churchyards, it wouldnt be suprising I guess.
    I have also just remembered what is next door to the chapel that Di posted a picture of today. There is a small Christadelphian chapel, and I dont know how old it is but it certainly looks as if it could be a couple of hundred years if not older.
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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 21:40 GMT (UK) »

A bit of memory jogging works wonders - well done Linda!

I have just had confirmation that I have the RIGHT CHAPEL. A relative has something in a book with "some writings" - I wont receive a copy until the weekend so will keep you posted.

It certainly would be interesting to know a bit more about the Christadelphian chapel - that one's all yours Linda  Grin
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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 01 March 06 06:58 GMT (UK) »

Thats good news Di, if you find out anymore or want me to check on anything locally please let me know. Its a very striking building which is why it caught my eye as I walked past.
           Bye for now.
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Freeman, Cheney, Cox- Northants.
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Lanarkshire, Ross and Cromarty and Kincardineshire.
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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 02 March 06 22:08 GMT (UK) »


As I think has been stated - there are other churches etc on that street.

I was just looking for my "Tabram" side of the family and found the name of a christening of Isaac Tabram in 1790 at  "Old Meeting Dead Lane-Independent, Ware"

So it seem a very popular area for religious activities!!  Grin

Just to hinder your searches  Wink

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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 02 March 06 22:29 GMT (UK) »

As the Christadelphians only came into being in the middle of the 19th century your "Old Meeting" may have been the previous use of that chapel.  It is however worth noting that most "Old Meeting Houses" joined the Congregational Union you may well be discussing one church.  There is no reason why the original chapel should not have been retained as a school room when the newer probably late 19th century building was constructed and only much more recently taken over by the Christadelphians.

I think we have invented another challenge for those visiting the site.  That is to find out the age of the two buildings by measuring the brick sizes etc. and looking for other clues.
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Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #52 on: Friday 03 March 06 06:43 GMT (UK) »

I have a feeling the Christadelphian building is older than mid 19th century so you could be right, it may have been used before they arrived. It wont be too difficult to find out the date it was built.
      It certainly is "chapel city" round there, but I believe Ware also had more pubs than any other town in England at one time so I guess someone thought the town needed saving from its sins!!!!
  Hi Behindthefrogs,  Iam not sure about measuring brick sizes, I was going in to ask the extremely knowledgeable librarian for some information. Seems like the easier option!!!!
                     Best wishes to all you Ware fans.   Linda.


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Chamberlain and Wagstaff- Hunts.
Freeman, Cheney, Cox- Northants.
Burns, Muter, Cobban, Hossack, Strachan, Moonlight.
Lanarkshire, Ross and Cromarty and Kincardineshire.
Garvey- Ireland.

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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #53 on: Friday 03 March 06 07:24 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

My ggg grandfather John Josolyne was a school teacher in 1797, we think he lived at Ingletts Hall, Wareside, although I can't find anything online about such a Hall ever existing.

Anyway, all of his children were ch. at Old Meeting, Dead Lane, the youngest was born abt 1809.  I also found 3 entries on the NBI - dates: 1828/32/33 of John, his wife Mary and daughter all having been buried at Ware Congregational Chapel.  So if we narrow the dates down, it probably changed between 1809 and 1828.

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Josolyne - Essex & Herts,
Wainwright - Hamps & London,
Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent,
Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous.
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« Reply #54 on: Friday 03 March 06 07:45 GMT (UK) »

I will check on Ingletts Hall for you Anna, though it dosnt ring a bell. The Jocelyns that my mother looked up lived in Sawbridgeworth. Do you have any connection to them?
    All these chapels are so confusing.
     Good luck.  Linda.
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Chamberlain and Wagstaff- Hunts.
Freeman, Cheney, Cox- Northants.
Burns, Muter, Cobban, Hossack, Strachan, Moonlight.
Lanarkshire, Ross and Cromarty and Kincardineshire.
Garvey- Ireland.

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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #55 on: Friday 03 March 06 09:50 GMT (UK) »

The Congregational Union was actually formed in 1831 but one can imagine that in the years leading up to it churches were aligning their names.
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DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES CAN BE FOUND IN SURNAME INTERESTS AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #56 on: Friday 03 March 06 10:50 GMT (UK) »

Hi Linda,

It seems there are at least 18 different ways of spelling JOSOLYNE/JOSLIN/JOCELYNE etc.  According to those who have traced their own lines, we are all linked in some way with the Sawbridgeworth family, then again we are talking several hundred years ago!  I have only managed to get back to 1762 with my line!

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Josolyne - Essex & Herts,
Wainwright - Hamps & London,
Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent,
Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous.
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Re: Burial - Ware Congregational
« Reply #57 on: Friday 03 March 06 10:53 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I forgot to mention that they also seemed to own (though this is a bit confusing - to me anyway) Uplands Taitling cottages? as well as Ingletts Hall, all in Wareside I believe.

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Josolyne - Essex & Herts,
Wainwright - Hamps & London,
Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent,
Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous.
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« Reply #58 on: Friday 03 March 06 14:21 GMT (UK) »

Hi Anna,
              I will check that out over the weekend. The latest Jocelyn that Mum found was Sir John who died in 1741 at Hyde hall in Sawbridgeworth. He insisted on being buried with his horse in the avenue leading up to the house.
   Bye for now.  Linda.
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Reynolds, Woodham, Payne, Wilmott, Hart, Richardson, Packwood, Tandy, Dexter - Bedfordshire.
Chamberlain and Wagstaff- Hunts.
Freeman, Cheney, Cox- Northants.
Burns, Muter, Cobban, Hossack, Strachan, Moonlight.
Lanarkshire, Ross and Cromarty and Kincardineshire.
Garvey- Ireland.

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