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Walter Jay census lookup
« on: Thursday 22 December 05 05:49 GMT (UK) »

I am researching My Jay line. Walter was born c 1848 Dalston Middlesex  He is listed on the 1881 census with his wife Amelia and is one year old son Harold

Would like to find him on the previous census if any one could do a look up. walter's parents are said to be Edward and Lydia asper walter's death certificate . but have not been able to confirm this. 
all help is appreciated
Merry Christmas Smiley
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Bryson: Antrim Ireland.
Bugg: Suffolk.UK
Barber: Norfolk. UK
Sewell: Northumberland.UK
Jay: Middlesex, Hertfordshire.UK
Simpson : Segully Tyrone Ireland
Roach/Roche: Australia.
Richards: Cambourne Cornwall.UK
Vivian: Cambourne Cornwall UK
Hampton: Mauritius, England,
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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 December 05 06:14 GMT (UK) »

Hi asaph, Grin

as Walter is a soldier in 1881 this looks like him in 1871.

1871 Census  Portland Dorset

Verne Citadel Barracks

Walter Jay, NC Officer, 21, Corporal Army  Dalston Middlesex

RG10
Folio: 26
Page: 11

I'll see if I can find him on the earlier censuses.

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Darcy
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Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.
Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 December 05 06:21 GMT (UK) »

Thanks
I think that might be him. I know that he married Amelia Mcknight in 1873 yougal Waterford Ireland. 
Thanks again for your help. Smiley
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Taunton, Stagg, Jeans, Peppard, Thorne, Hann. Chaffey in Montacute Somerset.
Bryson: Antrim Ireland.
Bugg: Suffolk.UK
Barber: Norfolk. UK
Sewell: Northumberland.UK
Jay: Middlesex, Hertfordshire.UK
Simpson : Segully Tyrone Ireland
Roach/Roche: Australia.
Richards: Cambourne Cornwall.UK
Vivian: Cambourne Cornwall UK
Hampton: Mauritius, England,
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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 December 05 06:42 GMT (UK) »

Hi Darcy
I don't surpose that Edward and Lydia Jay were in dalston on the 1871 Census.
? I have no siblings for Walter  and presume that there would have been more children.
Smiley
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Taunton, Stagg, Jeans, Peppard, Thorne, Hann. Chaffey in Montacute Somerset.
Bryson: Antrim Ireland.
Bugg: Suffolk.UK
Barber: Norfolk. UK
Sewell: Northumberland.UK
Jay: Middlesex, Hertfordshire.UK
Simpson : Segully Tyrone Ireland
Roach/Roche: Australia.
Richards: Cambourne Cornwall.UK
Vivian: Cambourne Cornwall UK
Hampton: Mauritius, England,
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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 December 05 06:47 GMT (UK) »

Hi again, Grin

I can't find a Lydia & Edward together with a son Walter. Here is a possibility. I have checked this family in 1851 and they have a son called Edward. I will post the 1851 too and you can check up and see if you can confirm any of it.
Unfortunately  both censuses are difficult to read - either very faint or crossed out! - also some of this family keep changing their place of birth. Grin

1861 Census  Shoreditch

3 Stonebridge Terrace

William Jay, head, Officer of Inland ....? Town Hall, Waltham Cross Herts
Lydia, wife, 50, Woodbridge Suffolk
William, son, 15, Collector of Tithes?, Bermondsey
Isobel, dau, 17,  Bermondsey
Walter, son, 11, Scholar, Haggerstone Middlesex

RG9/247
Folio: 90
Page: 7

Regards
Darcy
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Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 December 05 06:57 GMT (UK) »

1851 census  Shoreditch

3 Stonebridge Terrace

Willian Jay, head,47, Officer of excise, Cheshunt Herts
Lydia, wife, 40, Woodbridge Suffolk
Edward, son, 17, Goldesbone Suffolk
William, son, 14, Woodbridge Suffolk
Ellen, dau, 11, Scholar, Warmarket? Suffolk
Isobel, dau, 7, Bermondsey
Haltes?, son, 12 months, Shoreditch

HO107/1537
Folio: 4
Page: 1

Walter is not with them. I'm looking for him now.

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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire
Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.
Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 December 05 07:11 GMT (UK) »

asaph,

I've found a Lydia and Edward in 1871. I'm having a look at it now.

Darcy Grin
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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire
Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.
Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 December 05 07:22 GMT (UK) »

Hi Darcy
The 1861 census with william and lydia
the youngest child listed as HALTES? change the H to W and the S to R and you have Walter which would seem more correct, have never seen haltes as a name. Smiley
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Bryson: Antrim Ireland.
Bugg: Suffolk.UK
Barber: Norfolk. UK
Sewell: Northumberland.UK
Jay: Middlesex, Hertfordshire.UK
Simpson : Segully Tyrone Ireland
Roach/Roche: Australia.
Richards: Cambourne Cornwall.UK
Vivian: Cambourne Cornwall UK
Hampton: Mauritius, England,
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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 December 05 07:26 GMT (UK) »

My goodness you are right!.  Grin It is recorded and transcribed as Haltes and Walter never dawned on me. That is a real possibility as I can't find Walter staying with anyone else in 1851.  You can go to the top of the class. Grin

I have checked the Edward & Lydia family back to 1851 but they don't appear to have a son Walter and they seem to have lived in the same place all their lives.  They have a son Edward and a daughter Rebecca as well as Mary Ann.Here they are for your reference. I'm going to check Haltes again! Grin

1871 Census Mendham

Edward Jay, head, 59, Ag Lab, Mendham
Lydia, wife,59, Mendham
Mary Ann, dau, un 23, Mendham

RG10/1739
Folio: 14
Page: 4

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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire
Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.
Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 December 05 07:38 GMT (UK) »

I've had another look and you are right.  Grin

It's really tiny, scrawly writing and there is a stroke across the "W" which makes it look like an "H" - but I'm positive now it says Walter! How dumb am I ? Grin

Well, I don't know if I have helped you - or confused you Roll Eyes but that's the best match for Walter I can find in Middlesex.

Maybe you can do a bit of checking and see if you can make a connection.

Regards
Darcy Grin
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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire
Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.
Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 December 05 07:40 GMT (UK) »

Thankyou very much.
That has to be them as I had looked at the dalston parish record and could not find one Jay.
I will do some futher hunting to confirm details.
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Taunton, Stagg, Jeans, Peppard, Thorne, Hann. Chaffey in Montacute Somerset.
Bryson: Antrim Ireland.
Bugg: Suffolk.UK
Barber: Norfolk. UK
Sewell: Northumberland.UK
Jay: Middlesex, Hertfordshire.UK
Simpson : Segully Tyrone Ireland
Roach/Roche: Australia.
Richards: Cambourne Cornwall.UK
Vivian: Cambourne Cornwall UK
Hampton: Mauritius, England,
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Re: Walter Jay census lookup
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 December 05 07:44 GMT (UK) »

Happy Hunting asaph -  I hope you run them to ground. Grin

Merry Christmas
Darcy  Wink
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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire
Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.
Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire
Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire
Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland



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