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angie33
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birth lookup please
« on: Sunday 01 January 06 19:16 UTC (UK) »

hi happy new year can anyone help please i am trying to find information on my gggrandmother her name was Emma raynor and she was born in march cambridgeshire around 1865-1871 sorry thats all i have i no she had a daughter in 1891 called Margaret who was born in nottinghamshire please i cant get any further good luck Angie Grin
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 January 06 19:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi Angie,

I can see this in 1891:
RG12/2656 73 7
Mansfield Union Workhouse, Nottinghamshire

Emma Raynor, single, 31, domestic servant, b. Cambridge March
and a few lines underneath
Margaret Raynor, under 1 mth, b. Notts Mansfield

Any use?

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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 January 06 19:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi there

Looks like her in 1881.....

Emma Raynor 31 Single. Domestic Servant b.March,Cambs

at......Mansfield Union Workhouse. Notts.

RG12/2656/73/7

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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 January 06 19:30 UTC (UK) »

thanks for the replies could anyone please look if possible where she was in the 1871 census and the 1901 census as Margaret her daughter was brought up by someone else its a bit of a mystery where she went perhaps she died would be nice to know these things again thanks for the replies Angie Cheesy
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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 January 06 19:33 UTC (UK) »

... there are also other Raynors at the Workhouse in 1891:
Florence Raynor, 5, b. Cambridge March
Richard Raynor,single, 61, Miner, b. Kimberley Nottinghamshire

Can't see them in 1901. There seem to be too many possibles in earlier census returns, but no exact match.
Have you spotted a likely one in 1881?
 
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 January 06 19:37 UTC (UK) »

no Ive been looking on family search .org in the 1881 census not had any luck at all been abit difficult thanks ever some much for those names anything else at all would be great thanks for your time and help Wink
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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 January 06 20:21 UTC (UK) »

hi dont suppose anyone could find anything on Emma's parents would love to no there names please that would be great thanks Cheesy Emma raynor born abt 1860 cambridgeshire
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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 January 06 22:51 UTC (UK) »

I can see nothing obvious looking at the 1861/71 censuses. I would be tempted to get Margaret RAYNOR's birth certificate (Mansfield registration district,  volume 7b page 105) to make sure that the 1891 was correct when she was described as Single - if she were actually a Widow it would change many things. You can order the certificate online at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 January 06 23:02 UTC (UK) »

hi its Margaret mother Emma raynor that i am hoping to find information on i do have Margaret's birth certificate and it lists Emma raynor as her mother no fathers name given and i was interested to know about Emma's parents if anyone could help .Emma raynor born abt 1859-1861 in march cambridgeshire thanks for the information already given but need help with Emma she is a bit of a mystery Angie Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 01 January 06 23:14 UTC (UK) »

IGI lists the following christenings:

Emma Rayner  14 Feb 1858  Balsham, Cambridge
To James & Sarah Rayner (no maiden name given)

Emma Susan Rayner  30 Oct 1959  Meldreth, Cambridge
To John & Sarah Rayner (no maiden name given)


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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 01 January 06 23:19 UTC (UK) »

hi thanks looks like possibilities thanks very much everyone you been a great help happy new year to you all Angie Cheesy
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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 02 January 06 09:15 UTC (UK) »

In addition in 1861 living in Downham, which is not too far from March, was John and Rachel Rayner both 40, children Lizzey 11 b Sherham; Levi 3 and Emma 1 both born Downham.

But neither the censuses nor FreeBMD show an Emma born in March in 1860 +/-5 yrs

With nothing obvious to link your Emma to any of the possibilities you may need to consider moving laterally and get the birth certificate of the Florence who was born in March in 1886 - if you're lucky it might have been Emma's mother who registered the birth.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 January 06 09:19 UTC (UK) »

In addition in 1861 living in Downham, which is not too far from March, was John and Rachel Rayner both 40, children Lizzey 11 b Sherham; Levi 3 and Emma 1 both born Downham.

And to complicate matters, it seems these parents are called James and Susan by 1871  Shocked
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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02 January 06 09:32 UTC (UK) »

hi all abit confusing how do i go about getting Florence's birth certificate all a bit new to this i appreciate all the help I'm getting all could be possibles Angie Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: birth lookup please
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02 January 06 12:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Angie

You can order it online at
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/

She is registered as Florence Emily RAYNER in North Witchford Registration District volume 3b page 596 in the March quarter 1886

(as a safeguard you could specify that the certificate should only be issued if the mother is Emma)

These BMD details can be found at http://www.freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Good luck

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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