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SJ_Booker
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1881 Canadian Census
« on: Wednesday 04 January 06 23:30 GMT (UK) »

hi

I am trying to find out  if someone on the 1881 canadian census is someone in my family tree.

Townsend, Norfolk North, Ontario
Family History Library Film   1375899
NA Film Number   C-13263
District 158
Sub-district   B
Division   2
Page 58
Household Number   291

Jacob Wiedrick age 32


what i would like to find out if anyone is able to help is what the names of Jacob's Parents were, what the relationship is to rachel, and what his wife's name was!!....so not much then!! lol  Grin

hope you can help!


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AYLING, BLACKBOROW, BOOKER, BOWLEY, BRIDGER, CLEAR, COULTON, CUTLER, DAVIES, DUVAL, FLAMBARD, GARDNER, GOVER, GRAY, JONES, LUDGATE, MILLYARD, OLIVER, SOWTER, TOUZEL......AND MANY MORE
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 January 06 00:57 GMT (UK) »

Have you looked at the 1901 and 1911 Canadian census? there is a Jacob Weidrick in the same subdistrict, Townsend.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html
Ontario, Norfolk North, Townsend e-4, page 5, line 10 and if you click on 'links' on the right it will take you to him in the 1911 census. Wife's name Sarah  Smiley



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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 January 06 01:03 GMT (UK) »

thankyou

i'm afraid i'm not very knowledgeable with where to look for canadian details!

is there any way to find out what his parents were called?

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AYLING, BLACKBOROW, BOOKER, BOWLEY, BRIDGER, CLEAR, COULTON, CUTLER, DAVIES, DUVAL, FLAMBARD, GARDNER, GOVER, GRAY, JONES, LUDGATE, MILLYARD, OLIVER, SOWTER, TOUZEL......AND MANY MORE
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 January 06 02:01 GMT (UK) »

from the lds website
Emerson Martin Wiedrick born 06 Sep, 1880, Nober, Norfolk, Ontario
Father: Jacob Wiedrick      
Mother: Rachel Walker

Emerson M Wiedrick b 1880 is part of the Wiedrick family in 1881 and even though the wives names differ Emerson M Weidrick matches with the Weidrick family in the 1901 census

Here are 3 links for the various spellings of Weidrick that I could find

Weiderick
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/SurnameList.jsp?surname=Weiderick

Weidrick
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/SurnameList.jsp?surname=Weidrick

Wiedrick
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/SurnameList.jsp?surname=Wiedrick

There are a couple of men here that are old enough to be Jacobs father.  Someone else may know a way to determine his father
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 January 06 02:50 GMT (UK) »

WOW!!! on a hunch I tried rootsweb, found this

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2795349&id=I235

hope it helps  Smiley
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 January 06 03:23 GMT (UK) »

Hi, Shealer... you may be a newbie to rootschat...but not to genealogy,
Welcome!!!  J.J.
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 January 06 05:21 GMT (UK) »

Thx for the welcome, J.J. I dabbled in genealogy a bit a few years ago and found it really easy to find my Coopers in Thanet, England, took a break when things got tough and just recently started again a few months ago. I am still a partial newbie, and still learning, just don't like to quit until I've tried every possible avenue I'm aware of  Grin
Things are also a little easier now, with the freeBMD, online census's and the generous 'lookup' assistance.  Just wish I could find some of my Canadian family as easy as I found this, can only go back to 1911 on one and that's it, a big brick wall.
Cry


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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 January 06 15:21 GMT (UK) »

Sorry to hijack your thread for a moment...xSJx

Denise, there are many aspects to this forum,  and brick walls are broken down
every day. so stick it out and try many threads.  Have you put your Canadian
enquiries on this thread? These people are very good, and maybe can help. If
the info is out there, and you get the right people on your case, it can really be
a great help.  Here's a hint...if your message just sits there, it goes to the back
burner....so make sure you put in the full names and dates of the person you
are looking for, and also answer each message right away...
That way, it goes to the top of the thread for more to see...and people don't
wonder why they aren't thanked for their help...( sometimes the notification
doesn't work, so check back, anyway, sometimes)
All the best and good luck, J.J
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 January 06 21:29 GMT (UK) »

O.K. then, this is likely your father, but only head of family named in 1871
   WIEDRICK MARTIN  51  and all else matches location in the '81!!!
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02010803_e.html
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 January 06 21:34 GMT (UK) »

and lo and behold....I also found this...but it is submitted by researcher, so accuracy has to be proven...

"Martin Wiedrick"  date of marriage, name of parents....etc...in Germany
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

also says name of spouse, although age doesn't match....nor place in Ont.
So go have a look for your self...and keep for your files just in case...
 
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 January 06 16:50 GMT (UK) »

thankyou  Grin

unfortunately the rootsweb entry has a LOT of strange entries that contradict itself let alone my tree! - but some are indeed linked....it's hard to trust it though...hard job but will have to try and find evidence for each person before entering them!
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AYLING, BLACKBOROW, BOOKER, BOWLEY, BRIDGER, CLEAR, COULTON, CUTLER, DAVIES, DUVAL, FLAMBARD, GARDNER, GOVER, GRAY, JONES, LUDGATE, MILLYARD, OLIVER, SOWTER, TOUZEL......AND MANY MORE
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 January 06 21:33 GMT (UK) »

At the LDS family history site I gave you there are several submissions, in the
Ancestral and the Pedigree Resource File...so if you contact the people  (there
are 3 )who made those submissions, you can ask if they have any documentation,
if it matches with your family tree.

It appears that Jacob is a widow and either his sister or a sister-in -law
has come to help raise children. Being that Martin is on the 1871, and there is
a Martin listed on the LDS site by someone in Toronto Ontario,  I think it imight
be worth looking into? 

Hmmm...Just looked at the rootsweb entry once more and see that they say Rachel was wife?  Odd that 1881 would have put him as "W" .


Any of these yours, then"
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywayne/cemeteries2/macedoncem6.html

J.J.
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 08 January 06 21:52 GMT (UK) »

There are 3 other files that you could try sifting through for the same person.

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=davidreynolds2&id=I3223

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ancestry214&id=I100

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=polarzxc&id=I3223

Unfortunately, as I have found from my own research, misinformation can be passed on from person to person, I just pick the meat and throw out the bones.  I take what I can find, question mark everything until I've cross referenced with census and or other records.
I have one ancestor where every piece of shared information had the year of birth as 1801, even though there appeared to be a birth record showing 1810 as the year of birth. I just today started to work through the children of this woman's brother using the 1880 US and 1881 Canadian census and found her living with one of the children at age 70, year of birth 1811 Smiley
Happy Hunting
~Denise
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 January 06 21:56 GMT (UK) »



Hmmm...Just looked at the rootsweb entry once more and see that they say Rachel was wife?  Odd that 1881 would have put him as "W" .

J.J.

I think I read something about entering the wife if she died in the census year, according to the rootsweb info Rachel died in 1881. I'll see if I can find it again Smiley
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Re: 1881 Canadian Census
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 January 06 22:11 GMT (UK) »

Hmmmm...that is interesting...strange then that it would not
say deceased, or a code of some kind....
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