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Falkyrn
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Gutters ?
« on: Monday 13 September 04 23:29 UTC (UK) »
Checking out my wifes family I came across their listing in the 1881 census. The village is given as Sellack and their address is given as "Gutters".

Is this "Gutters" a place name or were they living on the street (big family 7 kids even the 12 yr old is listed as "ag lab".
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Re: Gutters ?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 September 04 23:39 UTC (UK) »
Hi Falkryn,

Just a thought but did you get the information from the familysearch site as it is known to have some pretty wild transcription errors Sad

Gutters sounds a bit dodgy to me Huh

If you post the details of the family then we can look and see if they are on either the 1871 census or the 1891 and if we can find them then maybe we will get the answer regarding the address Smiley can't promise though!

regards,Mick Wink
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Falkyrn
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Re: Gutters ?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 September 04 16:53 UTC (UK) »
Thanks,
The info came from a set of 1881 census CD's .. there is one error in that they mis spelt the village of birth (Kemply instead of Kempley)

Dwelling:   Gutters
   Census Place:   Sellack, Hereford, England
   Source:   FHL Film 1341623     PRO Ref RG11    Piece 2584    Folio 30    Page 12
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Thomas EDWARDS   M   38    M   Kemply, Gloucester, England
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Ag Lab
Mary EDWARDS   M   43    F   Much Marcle, Hereford, England
   Rel:   Wife
Thomas EDWARDS   U   17    M   Sellack, Hereford, England
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Ag Lab
William EDWARDS   U   15    M   Sellack, Hereford, England
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Ag Lab
Arthur EDWARDS       12    M   Sellack, Hereford, England
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Ag Lab
James EDWARDS       10    M   Sellack, Hereford, England
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Allan EDWARDS       8    M   Sellack, Hereford, England
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Ann EDWARDS       6    F   Sellack, Hereford, England
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
Albert EDWARDS       4    M   Sellack, Hereford, England
   Rel:   Son
Mary EDWARDS       2    F   Sellack, Hereford, England
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Nicky
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Re: Gutters ?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 September 04 08:52 UTC (UK) »
Hi
Here are the family in 1871

Arthur Edwards 2  Sellack, Herefordshire, England Son  Sellack  Herefordshire   
James Edwards 6 months  Sellack, Herefordshire, England Son  Sellack  Herefordshire   
Mary Edwards 32  Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Wife  Sellack  Herefordshire   
Thomas Edwards 29  Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Head  Sellack  Herefordshire   
Thomas Edwards 7  Sellack, Herefordshire, England Son  Sellack  Herefordshire   
William E Edwards 5  Sellack, Herefordshire, England Son  Sellack  Herefordshire 

Source information:    RG10/2685
Registration district:    Ross 
Sub-registration district:    Sollershope 
ED, institution, or vessel:    4 
Folio:    36 
Page:    6 
Household schedule number:    24

Civil parish:    Sellack 
County/Island:    Herefordshire 
Country:    England 

address looks like Grove Common

Thomas is listed as a shepherd.


Here are details from 1891

son Thomas and family

Edwards, Edgar J 3.12 Sellack, Herefordshire Son  Sellack  Herefordshire   
Edwards, Gertrude 2 Sellack, Herefordshire Daughter  Sellack  Herefordshire   
Edwards, Mary A 31 Woodford, Wiltshire Wife  Sellack  Herefordshire   
Edwards, Thomas 27 Sellack, Ditto Head  Sellack  Herefordshire   
Edwards, William 25 Sellack, Herefordshire Lodger  Sellack  Herefordshire 

     
Source information:    RG12/2054
Registration district:    Ross 
Sub registration district:    Sollershope 
ED, institution, or vessel:    4 
Folio:    35 
Page:    9

address is The Boggs

Thomas's occupation is portable engine driver

son James and Annie both working for a family called Coles on Coles Farm

Name:    Edwards, James
Age in 1891:    20 
Relation:    Laborer 
Gender:    Male 
Where Born:    Sellack, Herefordshire
     
Civil parish:    Foy 
Ecclesiastical parish:    Foy 
Town:     
County:    Herefordshire 

Source information:    RG12/2054
Registration district:    Ross 
Sub registration district:    Sollershope 
ED, institution, or vessel:    5 
Folio:    43 
Page:    5 

Name:    Edwards, Annie
Age in 1891:    16 
Relation:    Servant 
Gender:    Female 
Where Born:    Sellack, Herefordshire


and finally the parents

Edwards, Albert 45 Sellack, Herefordshire Son  Newent  Gloucestershire   
Edwards, Mary 12 Sellack, Herefordshire Daughter  Newent  Gloucestershire   
Edwards, Mary Ann 53 Much Marcle, Herefordshire Wife  Newent  Gloucestershire   
Edwards, Thomas 49 Kempley, Gloucestershire Head  Newent  Gloucestershire 


Source information:    RG12/2008
Registration district:    Newent 
Sub registration district:    Newent 
ED, institution, or vessel:    7 
Folio:    62 
Page:    5

address is Great Bull Hill

Albert is wrongly transcribed, he is in fact 14 not 45

Thomas is listed as a farmservant

Hope this helps

Nicky
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Re: Gutters ?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 September 04 16:53 UTC (UK) »
Thanks very much for that.

Re "Gutters" I have now received a copy of the 1901 census which appears to confirm "gutters" as an address albeit with a different family living there.

Wait till I tell my sister in law she came from the gutters  Roll Eyes
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