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Topic: PRYKE/HOWE/LOMAS - Kirtling/Newmarket area (Read 1893 times)
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MUD
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Hi. Newbie here. I'm at the early stages of researching this - I can find some census and BMD info, but if anyone has info on the following, up or down, I'd be more than grateful :
George Pryke, b. abt. 1818 in Lidgate, Suffolk. Married Elizabeth Howe in 1838, Newmarket, and settled in Kirtling, Cambs.
Their daughter Julia Pryke married a William Lomas, groom/stablehand/domestic servant in 1884, Newmarket. I'm particularly interested in William, but 2 censuses show different birthplaces - Wolverhampton and Muchley, Shropshire...
I have various siblings listed if the surnames ring any bells.
TIA
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CatOne
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Hi 
If you let us know which census info you have, we can fill in the blanks, so we're not duplicating things you've already got.
Have you got Williams and Julias marriage cert? Maybe we can find him as a child on the census with his parents if you havent already got this....
Catherine
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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire Shaw, Marland - Lancashire Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland Richards - Neath Swansea Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Nessie
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Hello and welcome to RootsChat
If you give us some idea of the census information you already have, we will try and help you with the missing ones
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janan
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Welcome Mud 
Let me know if you want them looking for in 1841
Cheers Jan 
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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MUD
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Thanks for the replies and the welcome.
Hope I'm doing right by replying to 3 replies in one post...
I have no BMD Certs yet - I'm getting all the free info possible, then I'll order certs for any brick walls that I come up against.
I have the marriage ref. for William and Julia - Newmarket, 3b 691 (this may prove to be brick wall #1)
I have 1891 and 1901 census data for William & Julia (Crofton, Bucks and Kentford)
1861 and 1881 census for the George Pryke household - Kirtling.
I also have the marriage of George P and Elizabeth Howe, June 1838, and the death record for George Pryke Dec 1890, Newmarket 3b 349.
TIA for any more help.
Mark
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CatOne
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Do you have William Lomas in 1881 - RG11/1675 Folio 45 Page 37 at 1 Pecks Cotts, Newmarket All Saints, Cambridgeshire (birthplace Shrops Kemberton)
Regards
Catherine
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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire Shaw, Marland - Lancashire Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland Richards - Neath Swansea Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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janan
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1841
Green, Kirtling
George Prike 20 Bl Sm
Elizabeth do 20
Susan do 3
Rhoda do 8mnths
All except George born in county
HO107/65/3 Pg17
Assume Bl Sm is short for Blacksmith
Cheers Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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MUD
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I saw that, but the age was a bit out, and on the 2 later censuses where 'my' William is with Julia, his birthplace is Wolverhampton (1891) and Muchley (Shropshire)... I checked the map, and Kemberton and Muchley are far enough apart that they're not the same place, IYSWIM... I haven't discounted him - it's just that there's no evidence to link him yet. As he's on my direct line, I'll probably order a marriage cert for him and Julia, and hope that pins him down.
Thanks
Mark
Do you have William Lomas in 1881 - RG11/1675 Folio 45 Page 37 at 1 Pecks Cotts, Newmarket All Saints, Cambridgeshire (birthplace Shrops Kemberton) Regards Catherine |
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alstark
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I have an Elizabeth How - b abt 1818, Kirtling -- but no other details. I am descended from one of her siblings.
The How name seems to acquired and 'e' in the early 1800's, though not all descendants have the 'e'.
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Stark, Walker, Britteon, Mummery, Watts, Murrell, Moyes, Swan, Sterry, Clark, Howe, Starling, Purkis, Stubbings, McWilliam,Stevenson, Strachan, Littlejohn, Kirkwood, Orr
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AgLabDescendant
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A bit of a long shot but was wondering if those reading this thread (who are clearly experts in the field) can tie any of their family trees to my great-grandfather Francis Howe who was born in Kirtling on 6.1.1881.He was the son of George Howe ,a farm labourer,and Eliza Howe (nee Leach).
I've only recently started tracing back my tree and any tips/links/data sources appreciated eg how do I find the birth certificate of George Howe ? (I've found the FreeBMD website which is v helpful and keeps the costs of certificates down) but how can I decide if he's the one registered in Newmarket in Q4 1851 or George William Howe registered in Newmarket in Q1 1861 or neither of these !
Thanks in advance
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Cambs/Suffolk:Howe,Downing,Bailey,Leach,Challice
Cambs/London/Suffolk:Butcher,Rawlins,Fowler,Pilfold,Misson
Yorks:Powell,Fowler
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janan
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat To get maximum help I suggest you start a new topic for your family. Meanwhile this should help decide which George Howe you need.
Jan
1891
The Street/Cottage Kirtling
George Howe Head M 56 Agricultural Laborer Kirtling
Eliza do Wife 54 Kirtling
John do Son S 18 Agricultural Laborer Kirtling
Owen do do 17 do do do
Frederick do do 15 do do do
Francis do do 9 Scholar do
RG12/1292/79 Pg24
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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suffolk*sue
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Catherine Sandys, I WILL find out where you went.
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1841
HOW
George - 35 - ag lab
Susan - 30
Rhoda - 12
Ann - 9
George - 6
Mary - 4
Lottie - 2
John - 6 months
HO107/65/3 - Kirtling
Folio 20
Page 15
As George was born before civil registration (1837) there will be no birth cert. You could try and find a baptism in the Kirtling parish registers.
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suffolk*sue
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Catherine Sandys, I WILL find out where you went.
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From Boyds marriage index and the IGI
Geo HOW
Susan CLAYDON
1827 - Kirtling
25th October
also according to the IGI
George HOW baptised 18th May,1834 at Kirtling.
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AgLabDescendant
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Thanks for all the help Janan and Suepip - detailed and quick !
As half-expected, "my" George Howe was neither of the two I first suspected !
Looks like I'll be planning a day trip to Kirtling !
Thanks once again.
Adrian
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Cambs/Suffolk:Howe,Downing,Bailey,Leach,Challice
Cambs/London/Suffolk:Butcher,Rawlins,Fowler,Pilfold,Misson
Yorks:Powell,Fowler
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suffolk*sue
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Catherine Sandys, I WILL find out where you went.
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Heres some more from IGI
Susey CLAIDON
bap. 24th May,1807
daughter of William and Hannah
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