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Topic: Lookup offer for crimea casualty list and indian mutiny (Read 28031 times)
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behindthefrogs
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Thank you Kev. I am beginning to think that the Crimea story was so that he could join the Confederates as a sergeant. He was after all a bigamist and so another little lie wouldn't be past him. He was paid to take someone else's place.
Forty years later he was pastor to three churches in West Virginia but still with two living wives and grown up children in the UK and the US.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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behindthefrogs
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I have the basis of his service in the Confederate Army thank you Annie. He substituted for John C Dovel in the 7th Virginia Cavalry but in fact served in the newly formed 11th Virginia Cavalry. I have a list of the campaigns that they took part in but have not yet looked into them.
I gather that a substitute was paid $300, which was a lot of money in those days.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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liverpool annie
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Hi David!
Can I ask you a question? ( well 2 or 3 !!)
how did you find out about the substitution?
and where did you find it?
Annie 
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behindthefrogs
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The fact that the actual substitution took place was on a local history site for either Rockingham County or Shenandoah. I can't remember which I am afraid and its not in my notes (slapped hand). By then I already had a history of his wife's family from a US source.
The figure of $300 I found by reading about the subject in general
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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liverpool annie
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David !
I just thought it was interesting! -
there's a few people looking for relatives that fought during the Civil War -
and theres name changes and history changes .... you name it!! - hard to get a handle on them 
Thanks for the idea!!
Annie
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helenna
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Hi Kev,
Wonder if you would look up my grandfather Henry Grahame MOntagu who served in the 7th Fusiliers in the Crimean and then in the Indian Mutiny. He was 17 when he joined app.1856??. Am looking for his service no. as unable to trace his family or other details prior to this date.
Many thanks
Helenna
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Kevwood
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Hi everyone, have found online a list of the recipients of the Indian Mutiny Medal:
http://users.rootsweb.com/%7Eindwgw/medalpage.htm
Had a look and Thudders is there. Nigel there is a thomas lloyd 84th foot. Gabba there are two Gabriels listed.
Lazarus there are some Wyatts.
Hi Helenna, sorry cant find him in any list.
Kev. 
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helenna
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hi Kev
Many thanks for looking. Henry is so elusive, we do have his commemoration medals for these wars, but no other record.
Thanks
Helenna
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runey
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HI Kev,
Thanks to the link you posted on thursday I found some relatives on Kevin Asplins Mutiny medal site, just wondering if you have any listings for them in the casualty rolls,
Growney, Bernard Corporal 84th York and Lancaster
Growney, John Private 34th Cumberland
Growney Peter ditto
Growney William ditto
Thanks again for providing the link, I just entered the name into the search engine on the offchance and was so surprised to find four of them there , I had no idea that they were in the army at that time!!!
Runey 
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Looking for Fry in London, Surrey, Devon& Dublin. Humphries in Wandsworth. Marsh in Wandsworth & Kingston. Blacker in Wandsworth & Battersea. Growney in Meath & Dublin. Also Harris and Walker in London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Kevwood
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Hi Runey,none of them are in the casualty roll, looks like they all made it back in one piece.
Kev.
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runey
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Wow Kev, that was fast,
Thanks for that, could they have served in the Crimea as well? (my history pre Boer war is rubbish so that may well be a silly question)
Runey
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Looking for Fry in London, Surrey, Devon& Dublin. Humphries in Wandsworth. Marsh in Wandsworth & Kingston. Blacker in Wandsworth & Battersea. Growney in Meath & Dublin. Also Harris and Walker in London Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Kevwood
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They certainly could have, they weren't casualties though.Checked it.
84th foot weren't in the Crimea by the look of it, but the 34th were.
http://regiments.org/regiments/uk/inf/034-702.htm
http://regiments.org/regiments/uk/inf/084-793.htm
Kev.
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