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Newton A
« on: Thursday 12 January 06 10:11 GMT (UK) »

I have a Arthur Lionel Rose aged 80 died at Newton A district in the July-Sept quarter 1962...........

Is Newton A, Newton Abbot in Devon?

Hoping someone can also help me with any other info on Arthur before I request his death cert.

Many thanks

Bob, New Zealand
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Re: Newton A
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 January 06 11:15 GMT (UK) »

What info do you have Bob?

It seems likely this is Newton Abbott (can't  think of an alternative, but maybe someone else can?)

There is an Arthur who marries in 1907 in sussex and a chap who seems to be him at college in Brighton in 1901 - would this fit with what you know?

kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Newton A
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 January 06 12:44 GMT (UK) »

Hi Arranroots

Many thanks for your quick reply.

This sounds very much like him. Well done

The information I have on Arthur is very scant.

A 1908 family letter says he was recently married which fits your.......

"There is an Arthur who marries in 1907 in Sussex"

And a previous letter written in 1896 suggests he is:

"a chap who seems to be him at college in Brighton in 1901"

The handwriting is poor and I don't know the area but the school seems to be Margot or Margots.......

Have been looking for several years for him. There are very few Arthur Lionel Rose on file anywhere.

Yes I think it will be him...... would appreciate any further information that is available.

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Bob NZ
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Re: Newton A
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 January 06 12:58 GMT (UK) »

Hello again Bob

I cannot make him move to Devon, but I can fill in on the bits I posted earlier - back in a moment!  Grin

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Newton A
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 January 06 13:12 GMT (UK) »

Here they are!

RG13/926/54/18

ROSE Arthur L boarder U 18 - pupil - London Hampstead

also on the page

ROSE Alexander L S boarder U 17 - pupil - London Brixton

Address: Chichester House, Brighton College, Eastern Road, Brighton, Sussex



Marriage

June quarter 1907

Hambledon  Vol 2a   Page 341

Arthur Lionel ROSE

Possible partners ~

Ethel Mary HARRISON

Annie Sarah HAMMOND


I hope this helps.  Let me know if you want them traced back further.

kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Newton A
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 January 06 13:35 GMT (UK) »

Hi Arranroots

Excellent. The top one is the Arthur I'm looking for

And according to a scratchy family note Ethel Mary HARRISON is his wife

Not sure who the other lady, Annie Sarah HAMMOND could be.

Arthur and Ethel had a female child born 1908 who dies at a young age..... I don't have a record of her.

Yes I would be delighted if you could trace them back further.

He was born in London c1881

I have found another letter suggesting he and his wife were living at Whitstable in 1914.

Really appreciate your help.
Many thanks indeed

Bob NZ


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Re: Newton A
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 January 06 13:45 GMT (UK) »

Hi Bob

I am finding it hard to determine which young man is him in 1891!  Do you already know his father's or mother's names, or siblings, please?

There are a couple that could be him, but no perfect match.  Was he known as Lionel, by any chance?

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Newton A
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 January 06 14:01 GMT (UK) »

Hi Arronroots

Father is Arthur Veel ROSE
Mother is Isaie Marion ROSE nee CLAUDET

Woops, they married 9-9-1879 and were divorced
c 1891.

Have full records for the mother but no birth date for Arthur Lionel.

The father is proving a mystery after the divorce too.

Hope that helps
Again.. very appreciative of your efforts

Bob


 
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Re: Newton A
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 January 06 14:04 GMT (UK) »


Yes he was known as Lionel in the family to distinguish him from his father.

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Re: Newton A
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 January 06 14:22 GMT (UK) »

Yes, I just found Arthur V in 1881 -I had his mother as a candidate in 1891, so now we can do both!

Here's 1891 - you can find 1881 at familysearch if you haven't already?

RG12/107/136/23

ROSE Isaie Marion H M 31 - Living on her own Means - London
Lionel A son 9 - London Kilburn
+ lady's maid

Address: 23 Carlingford Rd, Hampstead.

Will see what I can discover of Arthur Veel.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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