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Geoff
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Looking for Sarah CROSS widow, she would be about 45-50 yrs of age and some of her children would also be with her.
They are
Peter approx 20 yrs
Ephraim " 15yrs
George " 14yrs
Sarah " 13yrs
Mary Ann " 10yrs
Samson " 8yrs
Eli " 6yrs.
Any help appreciated
Cheers
Geoff
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** Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ** Somerset:MASTERS, HACKETT,HINTON,WEEKS, BOULTON,WRENTMORE/WRINTMORE Perthshire:CRICHTON,TAYLOR,MOON,IRONS,KIDD Durham:FENWICK,PUNSHON,EDDY,STEVENSON,HENRY Northumberland: BUCHANAN, HODGSON Lincolnshire:MASKEY, BIRD, FISHER, HARLEY, Cambridge:CROSS,FOREMAN,FREEMAN,ONG,SCOTT,FEAST,MOXON Gloucestershire,HILL,COX,NEWELL Sussex:CHAPMAN,STEVENS,DOWNER Surrey:NEWELL, LENEY, WEBB |
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chloespop
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The Cambridge Family History site has the 1851 census online.
www.cfhs.org.uk
It is an excellent site with a lot of information.
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Geoff
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Hi Chloespop,
Thank's for the tip.
Cheers
Geoff
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** Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ** Somerset:MASTERS, HACKETT,HINTON,WEEKS, BOULTON,WRENTMORE/WRINTMORE Perthshire:CRICHTON,TAYLOR,MOON,IRONS,KIDD Durham:FENWICK,PUNSHON,EDDY,STEVENSON,HENRY Northumberland: BUCHANAN, HODGSON Lincolnshire:MASKEY, BIRD, FISHER, HARLEY, Cambridge:CROSS,FOREMAN,FREEMAN,ONG,SCOTT,FEAST,MOXON Gloucestershire,HILL,COX,NEWELL Sussex:CHAPMAN,STEVENS,DOWNER Surrey:NEWELL, LENEY, WEBB |
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Hi Geoff,
here are two more sites of interest:
The Norfolk Transcription Archivs: http://www.genealogy.doun.org/transcriptions/index.php
(Wisbech was sometimes in Norfolk, sometimes Cambridge, and, I heard somewhere, sometimes in Lincoln !)
There are 389 entries for CROSS, some of them in Wisbech
e.g.
Wisbech District Tilney cum Islington
Baptism: 1817 CROSS, Sarah Robert + Charlotte (too young, maybe ?)
and Wisbech and the Fenlands: http://contueor.com/wisbech/indexes/index.htm
23 CROSS entries, some from Wisbech !
Hope this helps,
Bob
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Hi Bob,
Thank for these, with all these Cross's there's got to be some belong to me I should think.
Cheers
Geoff
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** Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ** Somerset:MASTERS, HACKETT,HINTON,WEEKS, BOULTON,WRENTMORE/WRINTMORE Perthshire:CRICHTON,TAYLOR,MOON,IRONS,KIDD Durham:FENWICK,PUNSHON,EDDY,STEVENSON,HENRY Northumberland: BUCHANAN, HODGSON Lincolnshire:MASKEY, BIRD, FISHER, HARLEY, Cambridge:CROSS,FOREMAN,FREEMAN,ONG,SCOTT,FEAST,MOXON Gloucestershire,HILL,COX,NEWELL Sussex:CHAPMAN,STEVENS,DOWNER Surrey:NEWELL, LENEY, WEBB |
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Anjo
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Hi Geoff,
Are you sure you are looking for Sarah??? I have been going in circles to find the info on the 1841 census and getting nowhere none of the Sarah's fitted with the children.
Had a look on the Lds site and found this
Peter Cross chr 1831 in Ely son of Philip Cross and Sarah Freeman
plus there was an entry for Ephraim chr 1829 and another Ephraim chr in 1835 it was a members entry but I decided I would start there.
In 1841 I found this family
Philip Cross 40 Ag Lab
Ellen Cross 35
Philip Cross 15
John Cross 14
Peter Cross 10
Ephraim Cross 7
George Cross 3
Sarah Cross 4
Mary Cross 1
they were living Cuckold heath, Ely, Cambridgeshire.
Thought they might have got wifes name wrong so checked the 1851 index and this is how they now look
Philip Cross 50
Ellen Cross 46
Peter Cross 20
Ephraim Cross 17
George Cross 12
Sarah Cross 14
Mary Cross 10
Sampson Cross 8
Eli 6
So did Sarah go by 2 names as the children match or maybe Ellen died and Sarah was a step mum. Let me know if you think this is your family
I hope it is. All the best Anjo
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Geoff
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Hi Anjo,
Thank you for the look up, this is my CROSS family.
Sarah was known as Ellen, I am reasonably sure she must have been christened Sarah Ellen FREEMAN & just prefered to be known as Ellen. I have not yet located her origins yet, but suspect that she was also born in Ely.
Her son Ephraim's death certificate gives his mother's name as Ellen. This threw me off track for a while as I couldn't locate my Phillip marrying an Ellen anywhere.
Could I ask a favour of you for the birthplace of Ellen {Sarah} if it's shown on the census please.
Cheers
Geoff
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** Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ** Somerset:MASTERS, HACKETT,HINTON,WEEKS, BOULTON,WRENTMORE/WRINTMORE Perthshire:CRICHTON,TAYLOR,MOON,IRONS,KIDD Durham:FENWICK,PUNSHON,EDDY,STEVENSON,HENRY Northumberland: BUCHANAN, HODGSON Lincolnshire:MASKEY, BIRD, FISHER, HARLEY, Cambridge:CROSS,FOREMAN,FREEMAN,ONG,SCOTT,FEAST,MOXON Gloucestershire,HILL,COX,NEWELL Sussex:CHAPMAN,STEVENS,DOWNER Surrey:NEWELL, LENEY, WEBB |
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Anjo
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Hi Geoff, The 1841 doesn't give birth places and I only checked the index of the 1851 as I don't have the actual census. The film no of the 1851 is HO107/1764 folio 557B if you could get someone to check it out for you your answer may lay there.
There are 237 names for Cross in Ely so I would presume that Philip is a local and you have inherited a large family !!
Have you checked out the Cambridgeshire fhs site there is loads of info on there. they have the index to both 1841 and 1851 plus birth and burials between 1801 and 1837 and a whole load of other stuff
Happy hunting Anjo
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Geoff
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Hi Anjo,
Thanks for the census #s.
I have checked the Camb fhs website, but alas Sarah cum Ellen still eludes me.
Cheers
Geoff
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** Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ** Somerset:MASTERS, HACKETT,HINTON,WEEKS, BOULTON,WRENTMORE/WRINTMORE Perthshire:CRICHTON,TAYLOR,MOON,IRONS,KIDD Durham:FENWICK,PUNSHON,EDDY,STEVENSON,HENRY Northumberland: BUCHANAN, HODGSON Lincolnshire:MASKEY, BIRD, FISHER, HARLEY, Cambridge:CROSS,FOREMAN,FREEMAN,ONG,SCOTT,FEAST,MOXON Gloucestershire,HILL,COX,NEWELL Sussex:CHAPMAN,STEVENS,DOWNER Surrey:NEWELL, LENEY, WEBB |
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The whole family was born in Ely.
Philip was a hackney carter
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There are 2 Sarah Freemans born Ely 1802 on the Cambs FHS Baptism Index. When she quoted age 46 in 1851 she may have been economical with the truth.
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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Hi Bedfordshire Boy 
How did I miss that entry?
Geoff 
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** Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ** Somerset:MASTERS, HACKETT,HINTON,WEEKS, BOULTON,WRENTMORE/WRINTMORE Perthshire:CRICHTON,TAYLOR,MOON,IRONS,KIDD Durham:FENWICK,PUNSHON,EDDY,STEVENSON,HENRY Northumberland: BUCHANAN, HODGSON Lincolnshire:MASKEY, BIRD, FISHER, HARLEY, Cambridge:CROSS,FOREMAN,FREEMAN,ONG,SCOTT,FEAST,MOXON Gloucestershire,HILL,COX,NEWELL Sussex:CHAPMAN,STEVENS,DOWNER Surrey:NEWELL, LENEY, WEBB |
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Frances
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Hi Geoff & Anjo,
Does this help you from the 1851, just extra details from what Anjo found on the Cross family. Regards, Frances
ADDRESS DOWNHAM ROAD
PHILIPS OCCUPATION HACKNEY CARTER
PETERS OCCUPATION AG LAB
EPHRAIMS OCCUPATION BUTCHERS LAB
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Geoff
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Hi Frances,
I had the occupations but not the name of the road.
Thanks for the time you took to check & send this for me.
Cheers
Geoff
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** Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ** Somerset:MASTERS, HACKETT,HINTON,WEEKS, BOULTON,WRENTMORE/WRINTMORE Perthshire:CRICHTON,TAYLOR,MOON,IRONS,KIDD Durham:FENWICK,PUNSHON,EDDY,STEVENSON,HENRY Northumberland: BUCHANAN, HODGSON Lincolnshire:MASKEY, BIRD, FISHER, HARLEY, Cambridge:CROSS,FOREMAN,FREEMAN,ONG,SCOTT,FEAST,MOXON Gloucestershire,HILL,COX,NEWELL Sussex:CHAPMAN,STEVENS,DOWNER Surrey:NEWELL, LENEY, WEBB |
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