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mush
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Iam related to thomas cleaver age 43 of cheltenham glousester i have info on him his wife ann age 42 from barton oxford thier children william age 18 barton oxford who i cannot trace charles my gggrandfather age 16 on the 1881 census was living in enstone oxford a henry age 14 who i cannot trace then comes under chipping norton oxford also mary age11 chipping norton james age 8 lucy age6 and finally albert age 1 all chipping none of these i cannot trace my ggreat grand father charles moved from england to live in wales i would be grateful of any help finding on any of the named above .
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Welcome to Rootschat
All these people appear on the 1881 census so when you say you canot trace them - do you mean on the 1891 and 1901 census??
Are you trying to trace them further backwards as well?
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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I am really struggling with this family in 1891.
So far I have found this which gives correct year of birth for Ann so it may be her
Cleaver, Ann
Death Quarter ending December 1888
Chipping Norton
Vol 3a
Page 498
Age at death: 49
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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I have found Charles on the 1901 census with his family in Wales. Do you have this?
Click on the reply button at the top of this request to answer.
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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I have also found 4 other Cleavers born Chipping Norton all living in Wales in 1901. All in Glamorgan. Their ages are all a couple of years out but I feel this is too much of a co-incidence for them not to be your family.
Do you know if many of them also went to Wales
I will wait to hear from you
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Iam trying to trace Thomas Cleaver back before 1881
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Thanx trisha
for the info on ann i am trying to trace thomas cleaver before the 1881 census i also found charles in the 1901 census with his family also i cannot trace thomas and the rest of the family in the 1901 census so i donot know if they all moved to wales only my great grand father charles
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1871 census
New Chapel, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire
Thomas Cleaver, age 33 Cord Winder-Wool, born Cheltenham Gloucs
Ann wife age 32, Cord Winder, Wool, born Barton Oxfordshire
William son age 8 born Barton Oxfordshire
Charles, son age 6 born Barton Oxfordshire
Henry son age 4 born Enstone Oxfordshire
Annie E dau age 2 born Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire
RG10/1457 Chipping Norton Folio 68 Page 50
Can't see Annie E on 1881
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Can't spot Thomas in 1861 but here he is with parents and siblings in 1851.
1851 census
Clevely, Chipping North Oxfordshire
John Cleaver Head age 41 Cordwainer born Daventry Northamptonshire
Mary wife age 35 born Woodstock Oxon
Mary dau age 16 born Enstone Oxon
Thos son age 13 born Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Martha dau age 11 Sunday Scholar born Lystone Oxon
Charles son age 9 Sunday Scholar born Enstone Oxon
William son age 6 Sunday Scholar born Clevely Oxon
Ruth dau age 4 born Clevely Oxon
James son age 2 born Clevely
Henry son age 2 months
HO107/1732 Chipping Norton Folio 570 Page 10
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Family in 1861
1861 census
Enstone, Oxfordshire
John Cleaver Head age 49 Cordwainer born Daventry
Mary wife age 45 born Woodstock Oxon
Charles son age 17 Groom born Enstone
William son age 16 Cordwainer Journeyman born Enstone
Ruth dau age 13 born Enstone
James son age 11 born Enstone
Henry son age 9 born Enstone
Dorcas A dau age 7 born Enstone
Julia dau age 5 born Enstone
RG9/912 Chipping Norton Folio 100 Page 10
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Thanx
i'm surprizied at the amount of cleavers in chipping norton,didn't think cleaver was a popular how wrong i was , i've been doing little bits on family history but i get confused on where to look how do you get all this info as there are so web sites i don't know where to start
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Here is Thomas in 1861. He has his brother James recorded with him even though James is also at home at the same time. This did happen - his parents may have just automatically included him with the family. There isn't another Thomas Cleaver born the same year in Gloucestershire so I am sure this is correct.
1861 census
Steeple Barton Oxforshire
Thomas Cleaver Head age 23 Cordwainer Cheltenham Glocestershire
James Brother age 11/12 - bit smudged born Enstone Oxon
RG9/901 Woodstock Folio 48 Page 20
Woodstock is where mum was born so I am guessing these places were pretty near to each other
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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Have sent a message. You could have a look at this link
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,3996.0.html
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi |
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In 1891 Mary Cleaver is a widow living with married daughter Julia
1891 census
Living Enstone - no address recorded
Charles Somerton Head age 45 born Somerton Oxon
Julia M wife age 36 born Enstone
Henry J son age 14 born Enstone
Edith dau age 12 born Enstone
Aubrey son age 7 born Enstone
Mabel dau age 7 months born Enstone
Mary Cleaver Mother in Law Widow age 76, Kept by her son, born Woodstock Oxon
William Trinder Lodger age 56 Shepherd born Stanton Harcourt Oxon
RG12/1179 Chipping Norton Folio 188 Page17
All relationships relate directly to the Head of the Household so Mary is Mother in Law to George, Charles, and therefore mother of Julia.
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trisha
on your last message so mary is related to julia so who's george i didn't notice any george on the lists you sent me
thanx mush
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