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Yates - Ainsworth / Hollins / Bury ( pilkington dist. )
« on: Thursday 16 September 04 10:40 BST (UK) »
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  After the successful search by krisesjoint for my family  ( big thanks ) in this thread http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11864.msg39517 can anybody help trace my wifes grandad's family please.  We know very little about James Yates, he apparently died 10 days after his daughter Bessie yates was born 13/05/1919......but we have searched all the graveyards we can think of with no luck...............James Yates was born in 1883...+/- 1yr ........we think he lived at 38 providence place ainsworth ..... or 10 providence place.

           James Yates married Lilley Beatrice courtney:

1891 Census
RG12/3146 ED 7 Folio 128 Page 32 Entry 191
344 Hellies Lane
Pilkington Lancashire

William Courtney Head 39 b Henstridge SomersetshireT Carter
Julia A Courtney Wife 31 b Henstridge Somersetshire
Caroline B Dau 13 b Pilkington Lancashire Stampers Labourer Cot
Elizabeth A Dau 11 b Pilkington Lancashire
James Wm Son 8 b Pilkington Lancashire
Annie A Courtney dau 6 b Pilkington Lancashire
Lily B Courtney Dau 4 b Pilkington Lancashire
Fred Courtney Son 1 b Pilkington Lancashire
Elizabeth A Turner 55 b Henstridge Somersetshire Mother in Law Widow
Caroline M Hayter 34 Sister in Law b Henstridge Somersetshire Single
William Turner 29 b Henstridge Somersetshire Single Brother In Law (Beetler Bleach Works)?
Frederick Turner 25 b Henstridge Somersetshire Single Brother In Law (Beetler Bleach Works)?
Thomas Walker 26 Single Lodger b Ireland Farm Labourer

married on 09/04/1910 at Unsworth Parish Church. This was witnessed by Jame's sister, Sarah Alice Yates .


Thanks

Andy  Smiley
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Names: Badman, Courtney, Davis, Fitton Greenslade,  Haytor, Hyde, Martin, Turner, Williams, Yates.
Places: Ainsworth, Pilkington ( Lancs) Henstridge (Somerset )
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Re: Yates - Ainsworth / Hollins / Bury ( pilkington dist. )
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 September 04 12:19 BST (UK) »
Ive Perservered with looking and Andy with nothing more to go on I would wonder about these...It is Providence Place  and there is a Sister Sarah Will bet the families connect ? father and son Grin  I cannot find them in 1871.  Cry

1891 Census

RG12/3145 ED 15 Folio 88 Page 19 Entry 98
38 Providence Place
Ainsworth Road
Ainsworth

Robert Yates Head 32 b Radcliff Lancashire Cotton Weaver
Elizabeth Yates Wife 34 b Radcliff Lancashire
Sarah A Yates Dau 9 b Radcliff Lancashire
James Yates Son 8 b Radcliff Lancashire
Mary Yates Dau 5 b Radcliff Lancashire
Joseph Yates Son 3 b Ainsworth Lancashire


RG12/1345 ED 15 Folio 88 Page 19 Entry 96
42 Providence Place
Ainsworth Road
Ainsworth

James Yates Head 61 b Ainsworth Lancashire
Betty Yates Wife 60 b Shuttleworth Lancashire
John Yates Son 39 Coal Miner b Ainsworth
Joseph Yates Son 34 Carter b Radcliff Lancashire
Nancy Yates Dau 22 b Radcliff Lancashire Calico Weaver
Ellen yates Day 16 b Radcliff Lancashire Calico Weaver

Cheers Kris
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 September 04 22:38 BST (UK) »
Back Again Andy...I found these people r living together in 1901..sorry cant give full detail or ref details without paying 4 it. These r certainly the same family from 91

James Yates 71 b Ainsworth Lancs Living on own means
Betty Yates 70 b Shuttleworth Lancs
John Yates 49 b Radcliffe Coal Miner Underground
Nancy Yates 32 b Radcliffe

Robert Yates 42 b Radcliffe Cotton Weaver
Elizabeth Yates 44 b Radcliffe
Sarah Yates 19 b Radcliffe Cotton Weaver
James Yates 18 b Radcliffe Cotton Yarn Dyer

Joseph Yates 44 b Radcliffe
Mary Yates 33 b Radcliffe
Hilda Yates 8 b Ainsworth
William Yates 3 b Ainsworth

Now there is another group I wonder about as Childrens names and ages do match Roberts Children from 91 so I will put it in

Ellis Yates 33 b Elton Stripper and Grinder Cotton Mill
Mary Yates 15 b Radcliffe Cotton Weaver
Joseph Yates 13 b Ainsworth Printers Labourer
Fred Yates 6 b Ainsworth

cant tell what these childrens relationship is to Ellis either without paying the tillerman im afraid. Mayb it is just coincidence that they have the same name and ages as Roberts children!
Kris
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 September 04 23:09 BST (UK) »
now peculiarly enough I went back to 91 and found Ellis I would think married with children but not these children  Huh

RG12/3142 ED 10 Folio 118 Page 25 Entry 150
7 Starling Rd
Ainsworth

Ellis Yates 24 Head b Elton Lancashire Stripper and Grinder cotton Mill
Martha A Yates 26 wife b Bolton Lancs Drawer in Cotton Mill
John Yates son 4 b Elton Lancs
William Yates son 2 b Ainsworth Lancs
Bridget Pilkington Mother in Law widow 50 b Ireland
Mary E Garvey Lodger 30 married b Bolton Lancs Rover In Cotton Mill
William Garvey Lodger 8 b Farnworth Lancs
Herbert Garvey Lodger 1 b Ainsworth Lancs

Bit peculiar isnt it...Certainly looks like the person these Children r with in 1901 yet not these children  Huh and those in 91 sure look like Roberts Children  Huh
Kris
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 September 04 20:05 BST (UK) »
Thks Kris..........there's loads of names there to sort out.....I've made some headway  Wink.........ellis prob has got some explaining, they do seem the same kids, gotta be cautious cause of the amount of yates...100's around there...... but a great starting point Cheesy.....the tree is getting roots Smiley
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Names: Badman, Courtney, Davis, Fitton Greenslade,  Haytor, Hyde, Martin, Turner, Williams, Yates.
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