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Jan_down_south
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my great granny Hannah Siddall circa 1938 aged 78
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This picture was found taped to the back of a more modern picture that had been taken down for re-framing.
It belonged to my Aunt but, at the moment, I have no idea exactly when or where it was taken.
Judging from the picture I would say it's a Christmas lunch, possibly held at a pub (bars on the windows) and very likely to have been in Halifax, possibly at the Cherry Tree pub.
Does anyone recognise it? Any idea what year or era?
TIA
Jan 
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Halifax - Pratt, Lord, Blagbrough (Blakebrough), Naylor, Atkinson, Southwood, Cockroft, Hoyle, Dry, Denton & Barker
Bradford - Denton
Southowram - Pratt
Hartshead/Clifton - Pratt
Sowerby - Siddall
Pershore Worcs - Clarke
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isitdust
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Peter Machon
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Hello
What a fantastic picture
Reminds me of my younger years - it looks for me as if the photo was taken in the 1950's
I think this period because of the Chrismas decorations and the fact that my Mum and Gran wore simlilar clothes and the pinny's worn by the ladies was so popular at that time
Were any of you relatives in the photo - this would help date it better
Best regards
Peter
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Surname interests: Machon(Poland), Hill, Howard, Tate, Cockburn, Maltby, Atack(Haytack), Wood, Walker, Brittle, Anderson Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukArea Interests: Poznan Poland, Nottingham, London, Oxfordshire, Middlesex, Durham, Northumberland, Huddersfield West Yorkshire, Burton on Trent Staffordshire |
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LouiseB31
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Hello Jan
I was going to suggest you contacted the guy who was asking about the Cherry Tree Inn in Golcar on another thread that I put in touch with someone, but having read your entry again you are talking about Halifax not Huddersfield - although they are very close to each other. Is this a common pub name or not?
Secondly, have you written to the Huddersfield Daily Examiner? You can email the photo to them and they can put it in their paper and ask for readers' help (although it might want scanning again as it is a bit out of focus). You can email them at editor at examiner.co.uk
(replace the at with @)
Or the Halifax Courier via their website on http://www.halifaxcouriertoday.co.uk/contactus.aspx
Newspapers love all that sort of stuff
Good luck
Louise
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Jan_down_south
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my great granny Hannah Siddall circa 1938 aged 78
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To "Isitdust"
That's the very crux of the matter, there's nothing written on the back of the photo and it's not known why it had been hidden behind another. The faces have been looked at but no-one looks "that" familiar.
You think it's as late as the 1950's? I thought the clothes looked older?
I'm going to contact the Halifax Courier to see if they will print it. They printed the Cherry Tree pub one for me back in the summer, so you never know.
To Louise
Thanks for reminding me about the Halifax Courier - I will contact them as they printed the Cherry Tree pub one for me back in the summer.
Cheers
Jan
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Halifax - Pratt, Lord, Blagbrough (Blakebrough), Naylor, Atkinson, Southwood, Cockroft, Hoyle, Dry, Denton & Barker
Bradford - Denton
Southowram - Pratt
Hartshead/Clifton - Pratt
Sowerby - Siddall
Pershore Worcs - Clarke
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dave the tyke
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Hi,
I've had a good look at this photo and tried to enhance it a little, not much success there.
Just a few thoughts.
The clock looks like it could be 10.05 - light outside so it is am. and therefore may not be a pub.
No glasses on the table - again not a pub
People wearing coats - cold - no heating - post war?
Possibly Womens Institute - all female staff and most of the people seated.
Wondering about the picture over the first lady's head, I think I have seen similar but I can't put a name to it and is that a light shade in the background? or one of those copper things that are found hanging from pub ceilings?
Is the dark square object on the wall between the windows a light switch? could it be Bakelite?
The decorations certainly look 50's or 60's (we were using paper chains in the 50's)
Regards Dave
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RuthieB
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I just wondered if it was a 'below stairs' sort of staff picture? The windows look like they may be below street level, in 'the area'.
Just a thought...
RuthieB
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isitdust
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Hello
Can I have another try at the years - I agree it could also be the 1940's
BUT
Look at the picture very closly and you will see that some of the women are wearing hats or bonnets very similar to those wore by the Salvation Ary
Best regards
Peter
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dave the tyke
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More thoughts
Definitely not below stairs, the windows would then appear to be black. Much of Halifax is in a valley so the 'horizon' seen in the windows could be hill tops or buildings 'across the street'
Could be war years indicated by lack of men but all the ladies and gentlemen are old, I think that would be a red herring. Besides there is no indication of blackout curtains.
The age exceptions are the 2 'staff' ladies nearest to the windows they may be wearing a uniform of sorts?
What is the 'staff' lady in the center rear holding? is it a very large tea pot?
The Sally army were wearing bonnets at this time and would have had to have been in full uniform or none at all.
I must confess a vested interest in this picture having been born in Halifax at the end of the war.
regards
Dave
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Jan_down_south
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my great granny Hannah Siddall circa 1938 aged 78
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Hello everyone
I passed on your comments to the family member who found the photo. Two of his thoughts were:
the ladies are dressed just like gt aunt florrie used to dress with a dead fox round her neck (aunt florrie was born in 1890 and lived until 1976).
was wondering if it was taken in ST JOHN HOSPITAL GIBBET ST or possibly STORTHES HALL in HUDDERSFIELD
He also re-scanned the picture in black and white and it is much clearer.
Yes we thing they are possible snow covered roof tops that can be seen through the windows.
Yes, that is a tea-pot and yes it is a light shade hanging at a slightly strange angle.
Yes, the dark square on the back wall does look like a light switch to me and seems to have a wire connected to it.
Any other thoughts?
Jan
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Halifax - Pratt, Lord, Blagbrough (Blakebrough), Naylor, Atkinson, Southwood, Cockroft, Hoyle, Dry, Denton & Barker
Bradford - Denton
Southowram - Pratt
Hartshead/Clifton - Pratt
Sowerby - Siddall
Pershore Worcs - Clarke
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carol8353
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Hello,
Just to add my two pennyworth
My immediate thought was a works do,with only two men at the table possibly they were the bosses.And yes I agree late 40's early 50's- my grandma is dressed just like those ladies in many photo's.
However now it's been 'cleaned up' you can see the second 'seated' lady is quite elderly so unless she's the owner or mum of the boss it's possibly not a works do 
Is that really a lampshade? It's a very modern one if it is.
Carol
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