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dave the tyke
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 19 January 06 09:26 GMT (UK) »

Jan,
I do hope that you will let us know if you have any response from the news paper archives.
We seem to have really gone to town on this photo without knowing much about it at all, it's really surprising what a group of people can come up with when they work together.

Good hunting
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 19 January 06 10:05 GMT (UK) »

What a super old picture.

I see that no one has suggested an OAP gathering. There are usually less men at those affairs than women.

Interesting that the seated people are wearing coats while the standing ones have removed theirs.

It looks as though the man and woman on the far side of the table are centred in the picture. Could it be an anniversary tea party for an elderly couple? Might explain the decorations.

Having spent a little time at a Mental Institution around 1960 I would discount that explanation as a locale.

I know, I know, I worked there!!

Beth
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 19 January 06 10:24 GMT (UK) »

Of course Beth,
we spotted the hats and coats earlier but didn't attach the proper significance - They came to the do from outside. Even some of the staff are wearing hats, they too are from outside. You wouldn't put on a hat if you were already 'home' so the people are not inmates or residents of the place where the party is being held.
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 19 January 06 23:54 GMT (UK) »

in them there days we didn't have the luxury of central heating etc. so even at a do like this you would keep your coat on, also it was part of your show of attire, (sunday best) so why would you take it of?
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #34 on: Friday 20 January 06 00:29 GMT (UK) »

Thinking about the coats and hats and institution theory......... we know it's spring (from the flowers) so it would be cold out................if moving from the building you live in to a communal building (scene of photo) ........... you would put your coat on!
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #35 on: Friday 20 January 06 18:17 GMT (UK) »

This is really getting everyone going!!

I just wondered, is there a prize for the winner when it is found out exactly what where and when the photo was taken??!!
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #36 on: Friday 20 January 06 21:37 GMT (UK) »

lolol you can't blame someone for trying!

Glad you're all enjoying the different theories, I know I am!

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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #37 on: Friday 20 January 06 23:14 GMT (UK) »

We didn't call it central heating in those days, but we certainly had the big old radiators in hospitals and the school I went to had a massive fan which pushed hot air from a boiler around underground passage ways and into the classrooms via ducts. Maybe if it was spring the heating would have been turned off.
What are the strange square designs on the lady's hat near the far end of the table?
The 'staff' look more WI than 'nurse' or 'carer' I think the 2 at the end in similar dresses, uniforms? could be permanent staff to the building, whatever it is. They look younger..... and board.
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #38 on: Friday 20 January 06 23:38 GMT (UK) »

Just a suggestion, but could this picture have been taken on 3rd October 1952, the day that tea rationing ended after the war? They do seem to be making much of the whole "tea" thing, and their clothing could certainly suggest they were dressed for a slightly less than pleasant October, which is apparently what the weather was like in that year

"1952 Cold and changeable, with some night frosts. It was often stormy and with some heavy showers. A tornado hit and caused some damage in Londonderry (NI) on the 23rd."
(Source: http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~taharley/british_weather_in_october.htm)

Just a thought, but it makes sense to me.

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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #39 on: Friday 20 January 06 23:41 GMT (UK) »

Just a suggestion, but could this picture have been taken on 3rd October 1952,

Nice idea but spring flowers in October???
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #40 on: Friday 20 January 06 23:43 GMT (UK) »

Fake ones? Autumn crocuses rather than tupils? I'm no botanist - I still don't know the difference between a weed and a flower! - but the leaves don't look like the tupils or daffs I've seen. Are they definitely tulips and daffs?

Yes, that bit was the only flaw in my otherwise perfect logic  Grin

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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 21 January 06 00:24 GMT (UK) »



After the war there was no housing etc - I'd say late 1940's - maybe '46 - '47
was this an old Army camp or something where people were staying ?
Till the new houses were built - maybe prefabs ............ !
what holiday was around Easter - or was it Easter?
It really does look like the WI or a church group who would feed the less
fortunate on the holiday !!
Fiercely independent older folk didn't want to be thought of as unfortunate -
hence the Sunday - go - to- meeting clothes and the not so happy faces !

Annie  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Re: Old Mystery Photo
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 21 January 06 01:09 GMT (UK) »

Hey Annie , remember?
"Down in the jungle living in a tent,
Better than a prefab -  no rent !

  :-))

I think its the 1940's. It could be early 40's too,  looking at the waved hair of the ladies in the back. That fashion, I believe, was left over from the 1920's and perhaps worn also in the thirties. The apron's look very 40's and the dresses at the back with spots are 1930's fashions.

I remember a relative having a dark green dress liike that with a frill round the bottom, and loose frilly flaps on the  sleeves. The spots were grey/cream and looked like eyeballs . It was like one spot overlayed on top of another . She called the colour "bottle green". I know when the spots fashion came out because she told me she had bought it in the thirties but hardly worn it as she was not fond of the colour.

Looks like a Christmas tea for the local seniors, to me .
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Griz ! - I'm a Lanky - I never heard that song - is it Yorky then??

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« Reply #44 on: Saturday 21 January 06 03:47 GMT (UK) »

Annie, It is a bit from an old Radio comedian Tommy Handley . I don't know why it stuck in my head. It was chanted to the sound of 'jungle' drums. There was also don't forget the diver,Sir.!" (along with bubbly noises,)  and  Mrs Mop, his char, "Can I  do you now sir? "

I am a Cheshire cat with  relatives from  in Lancs,  and Yorks.  Smiley
http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/localhistory/journey/stars/tommy_handley/itma.shtml

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