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Topic: 1841 & 1851 census. (Read 583 times)
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joette
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This is my brick wall & I am getting >:(My GGGrandfather died in Dollar Clackmannannshire in 1867.Unfortunately it was a neighbour who reported the Death.he was a widower born Scoonie?Scoonieburn Perthshire c 1822.He married Annie graham in Auchterarder c1843.No OPR for this.
His two eldest children on the 1861 Census give Aberruthven as their birthplace so I am looking for
Alexander Waddell/Waddel/Weddle born 1822-Brickmaker/Forester/Lab.
Ann Graham/Graeme 1822
James- 1846
Thomas
jean-1845
Alexander or any other waddells really.I would like to confirm his parentage but
.....No joy so far.
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Waddell-Perthshire,Dollar,Clydebank,Glasgow & USA.
Scott -Roxb,Midlothian.
McKimmies-Aberdeenshire,Banff,Morayshire,Niagara&NewJersey.Old Kilpatrick.
Lindley,Veitch-Canada.
Veitch-Peebles,Crawfordjohn,Midlothian.
Ross,Torrance,Brown,McDowall.
Greer/Simpson/Jenkins-Old Kilpatrick& Camelon Falkirk,Abbey/Neilston
Leitch-Abbey Parish.
Kerr/Carr.
Breakenridge/Liddell-Temple Midlothian.
Aitchison
Fraser/Barron/Coutts/Singer.
Waddell-USA after 1923.
McFarlanes-Midlothian/Australia.
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Miss Kate
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Posts: 27
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Re: 1841
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 July 06 05:05 UTC (UK) » |
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Joette,
I could only find him in the 1841. I hope a bit of this helps. This person for birth year of 1822 was the only Waddell / Wadel which was 1822 - none others came close that I could tell. There was a 4 year old Graham child in the same neighborhood as where these three lived. The child was in a household with people of other surnames. He was the only Graham.
George Robertson, b. approx. 1820, age 21
Occupation: Agricultural Lab.
Alexander Waddel, b. approx. 1822, age 19
Occupation: Agricultural Lab.
James Reid, b. approx. 1827, age 14
Occupation: Agricultural Labourer
The three in this household were each born in Perthshire, living at Cranley.
Citation:
1841 Census
Lethendy And Kinloch
Parich No. 372; ED: 1A; Page 7
Reels 1 through 151
General Register Office for Scotland
Edinburgh, Scotland
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joette
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Cheers & thanks for that.I suspect it is him.Ann Graham was living in Auchterarder with her Mother Isabella B Graham-ind.Jane Graham-her sister,Christine Campbell 10 & Jane Graham-1.
This is a really convoluted family.The above adult Jane I think died between 1841-1851-she is certainly dead by the time her daughter Christine Campbell marries in 1858.In the 1851 Census Ann is living in Auchterarder still & with her is Jane-10-enumerated as her daughter but I think is the above Jane her niece,James Cooper -5 & Thomas Waddell-2.
When Jane marries a Gibson she gives her parents as Jane Graham & William Sommerville(I think).My Great-Grandfather John Waddell is living with her& her family in NewKilpatrick for the 1881 Census as a boarder.My Grandfather was always led to believe that she was his Aunt & my GGrandfather & his sister Margaret were living there when they married.
William was living with James Cooper in 1881-James was enumerated as Waddell in the 1861 Census.His Mother had just died & Alexander died five years later leaving them orphans.
Thomas died of TB in 1871,Alexander fell between the wheels of a train on which he was the Goods Guard in 1873,James Cooper died in 1888 when the jib of a crane fell on him when he was repairing a railway bridge in Coatbridge-he was a stonemason like my GGrandfather.Margaret died childless & William went toUSA & as far as we know never married/had children.
So my GGGrandfather remains a mystery-I think that is him in 1841 but can't prove it-don't know his parents names but think his Father is Alexander-no sign on the 1851.
What was the name of the Graham child in the other household please?
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Waddell-Perthshire,Dollar,Clydebank,Glasgow & USA.
Scott -Roxb,Midlothian.
McKimmies-Aberdeenshire,Banff,Morayshire,Niagara&NewJersey.Old Kilpatrick.
Lindley,Veitch-Canada.
Veitch-Peebles,Crawfordjohn,Midlothian.
Ross,Torrance,Brown,McDowall.
Greer/Simpson/Jenkins-Old Kilpatrick& Camelon Falkirk,Abbey/Neilston
Leitch-Abbey Parish.
Kerr/Carr.
Breakenridge/Liddell-Temple Midlothian.
Aitchison
Fraser/Barron/Coutts/Singer.
Waddell-USA after 1923.
McFarlanes-Midlothian/Australia.
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Miss Kate
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Hey there Joette,
You have a lot to figure out!  Here is the information -
One household:
Elspeth Scott, b. approx. 1786
John Scott, b. approx. 1806
Occupation: Farmer
James Scott, b. approx. 1821, age 20
Occupation: Agricultural Lab.
Jean Scott, b. approx. 1821, age 20
Occupation: F S
Margaret Anderson, b. approx. 1821, age 20
Occupation: F S
John Graham, b. approx. 1837, age 4
All six members of household born in Perthshire and living at Cranley.
Citation:
1841 Census
Lethendy And Kinloch
Parish No. 372; ED: 1A; Page 7
Reels 1 through 151
General Register Office for Scotland
Edinburgh, Scotland
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Other Alexander Waddells for Perthshire in 1841, in birth year order:
Name: Ales Waddell
Age: 40, Male
Approx. birth year: 1801
Occupation: Blacksmith
Browns Street, Blairgowrie
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Name: Alexr Waddell
Age: 40, Male
Approx. birth year: abt 1801
Occupation: Blacksmith
Browns Street, Blairgowrie
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Name: Alexander Waddel
Age: 35, Male
Approx. birth year: 1806
Occupation: Veterinary Surgeon
Village of Binn Gend. (?), Kinnoull
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Name: Alexander Waddell
Age: 5, Male
Approx.birth year: 1836
Browns Street, Blairgowrie
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Name: Alexander Waddell
Age: 5, Male
Approx. birth year: 1836
Browns Street, Blairgowrie
All above A. Waddel / Waddells born Perthshire.
Note:
Some, look like duplicates, however they each show up in a different household grouping. Due to many tally, single and/or double hash slanted marks across the census sheet, some of the households were difficult to distinguish. Any visitors were counted as being part of the household on June 6th and 7th of 1841.
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1841 Census: surname Graham -
Name: Isabell Graham
Approx. birth year: 1826, age 15
Occupation: T S
Casthemains, Auchterarder
Living with: Anderson, Dun, Gan, Malecha, McDonald, Wilson
Citation:
1841 Scotland Census
Parish No. 329; ED: 4; Page 8
Reels 1-151.
General Register Office for Scotland,
Edinburgh, Scotland.
Best of luck with this jig-saw puzzle!! Hopefully this has more answers than questions....
Miss Kate
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joette
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Thanks for that esp. the Isabel Graham one I haven't seen that before.
If she was above 15 she could be a sister to Jane & Ann.
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Waddell-Perthshire,Dollar,Clydebank,Glasgow & USA.
Scott -Roxb,Midlothian.
McKimmies-Aberdeenshire,Banff,Morayshire,Niagara&NewJersey.Old Kilpatrick.
Lindley,Veitch-Canada.
Veitch-Peebles,Crawfordjohn,Midlothian.
Ross,Torrance,Brown,McDowall.
Greer/Simpson/Jenkins-Old Kilpatrick& Camelon Falkirk,Abbey/Neilston
Leitch-Abbey Parish.
Kerr/Carr.
Breakenridge/Liddell-Temple Midlothian.
Aitchison
Fraser/Barron/Coutts/Singer.
Waddell-USA after 1923.
McFarlanes-Midlothian/Australia.
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