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Topic: James and Edward Pilley 1861 (Read 74 times)
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bobtonks
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Can anyone see James and Edward Pilley living in Hereford ( Possibly High Town) in 1861? They would both be about 24 years old.
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philipsearching
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Hallo, Bob
No sign of them in Herefordshire in 1861, but there is:
RG9/1835, Ludlow, folio 94 page 28
High Street, Ludlow, Shropshire
Edward S (or J?) Pilley, 23, unm, Draper's assistant, Hereford St Peters - living with Herbert Johnston, draper, the Johnston family, 3 apprentices and 2 servants
There are 3 James PILLEYs on the census - two were born in Yorkshire and one in Lincolnshire. I had a look on the Wales census, but no luck there.
Do you have any more info - e.g. occupation?
Regards
Philip
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Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.ukTowcester/Weedon - ALLEN, BASFORD, MAY Fakenham - WILLIAMSON Hempton - WRIGHT, LOVELL Bethnal Green - MONKS and LARCHER Southwark - MOUNT, BOWBRICK Clonakilty to Southwark - CRISPIN Lambeth - LYON Hoxton - WALTERS Gwennap - JAMES, GRAY, TREWARTHA Antrim - CORDNER, SANDYS Peru - SOTELO, MOREY, BASELLI |
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bobtonks
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Philip
Since posting this request I have found the brothers in 1881 living in High Town Hereford and working as Drapers. Edward was listed as Edward Joseph.
RG11 2593/83 Page 7
In 1851 their mother, Mary, lived in High Town Hereford working as a Draper. James was a Drapers assistant.
HO107/1978 Hereford Folio 45 Page 36
I had assumed (never a good thing to do) that the brothers had taken over the family business which I guess they did sometime before 1881.
The Edward you found looks spot on. Is it possible to have the full listing?
Many thanks
Bob
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philipsearching
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Hallo, Bob
RG9/1835, Ludlow, folio 94 page 27 and 28
High Street, Ludlow, Shropshire
Herbert Johnston, head, m, 36, Draper, Ludlow
Mary Johnston, wife, m, 34, Ludlow
Herbert Johnston, son, unm, 7, Scholar, Ludlow
Elizabeth Johnston, daur, unm, 6, Scholar, Ludlow
Clara Johnston, daur, unm, 2, Ludlow
Benjamin P Johnston, son, unm, 3mo, Ludlow
Catherine Griffiths, visitor, wid(?), 62, Worcestershire - Stourport
Edward J Pilley, assistt, unm, 23, Draper's assistant, Hereford - St Peter's
George Abley, apprentice, unm, 17, Draper's apprentice Radnorshire - Knighton
James Harper, apprentice, unm, Draper's apprentice 14, Ludlow
James M Hughes, apprentice, unm, 15, Draper's apprentice Herefordshire - Pittey
Eliza Woodhouse, servant, unm, 20, Domestic servant, Salop - Chin(?)
Hannah Froggatt, servant, unm, 14, Domestic servant, Salop - Bittesley
In 1851 there is also:
RG9/1819, Hereford, folio 118 page 33
11, Allotments, All Saints, Hereford
Mary Pilley, head, unm, 64, Householder, London - St James
Mary N(?), niece, 17, Hereford - St Peters
Ann S, niece, 15, Hereford - St Peters
Theresa M, niece, 11, Hereford - All Saints
RG9/2046, Dudley, folio 80 page 11
Sedgeley Park Boarding School, Wolverhampton
Walter Pilley, unm, 13, Student, Herefordshire - Hereford
From the 1851 census - Agnes may be Ann (niece - above), but there is no sign in England of William.
All the best
Philip
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Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.ukTowcester/Weedon - ALLEN, BASFORD, MAY Fakenham - WILLIAMSON Hempton - WRIGHT, LOVELL Bethnal Green - MONKS and LARCHER Southwark - MOUNT, BOWBRICK Clonakilty to Southwark - CRISPIN Lambeth - LYON Hoxton - WALTERS Gwennap - JAMES, GRAY, TREWARTHA Antrim - CORDNER, SANDYS Peru - SOTELO, MOREY, BASELLI |
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bobtonks
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Philip
Thanks for the info. I found William living in Bridport Dorset. After the death of their mother the family just scattered.
Regards
Bob
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