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hlbradd
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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #60 on: Friday 09 December 05 20:59 GMT (UK) »

Hi Al

One is Steve who's already on here.  I'll leave a message for the other one though.

Had a google with 'Breyley' and 'Muswellbrook'.  Interestingly it brings up two references.

One is for the NSW Educational Gazette - December 1st 1894.  a Mary A Breyley, Emu (?) is listed as pupil teacher.

The other reference has a William Breyley, teacher, Brook Street, Muswellbrook - this is from a directory dated 1872. 

Opinions?

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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #61 on: Friday 09 December 05 21:13 GMT (UK) »

That's looking good Helen Cheesy

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hlbradd
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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #62 on: Friday 09 December 05 21:25 GMT (UK) »

It's looking better than good Janan Grin

Just been browsing the Australian bmd for NSW and found:

Births between 1855 - 1890   surname  Breyley

1863 - Edith E
1865 - Amelia A
1867 - Arthur E
1869 - Edwin G
1871 - Walter B
1873 - Herbert John
1875 - Mary Agnes
1877 - Florence A
1879 - Ernest A

These were the only births for that name - and the parents came up as (ta-da) William and Hannah in every case........

All the children were born in Muswellbrook except Mary Agnes (Patricks Plain) and Ernest A (Newcastle).

Just hope it's not a big coincidence Wink

anyone got census access to Australia  Tongue
Helen

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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #63 on: Friday 09 December 05 22:15 GMT (UK) »

Last post on this tonight - promise

Have also emailed someone with the surname Breyley-Smith.   He's a teacher living in NSW - but from New Zealand. Wink

Probably wonders who the strange woman is emailing him Tongue - but have left him a link to this topic on the off-chance.

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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #64 on: Friday 09 December 05 22:16 GMT (UK) »

I guess we should now be checking passenger lists UK -> Australia and Australia -> NZ (Which could be a subsequent generation)

Anybody know where to start???

Al  Grin
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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #65 on: Friday 09 December 05 22:26 GMT (UK) »

Okay, so I lied about it being last post Tongue

I know why William and Hannah's last child was born in the Newcastle, NSW area - have found William Breyley listed as headmaster of Christ Church Certified Denominational School from 1878 - 1882.

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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #66 on: Friday 09 December 05 22:50 GMT (UK) »

Wow Helen!!!  Brilliant detective work Cheesy

This thread is amazing......I shall carry on watching Wink

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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #67 on: Saturday 10 December 05 02:08 GMT (UK) »

I have been checking deaths in NSW Hannah  died 1920 and William died 1917 both in NSW Australia, looks like most of the children and grand children stayed in NSW as well, cant find a trace of Ernest , Mary or Herbert though
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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #68 on: Saturday 10 December 05 09:14 GMT (UK) »

YESSSSSSSS !


Have had reply (well, 3 actually) to the email sent to the guy in Australia.  And a reply from genesreunited re:  Edith E Breyley.

I think we have our Hannah Grin

Brief details are:

William Braunton Breyley was born 5th October 1837 in Walcot, Bath, Bristol to John and Catherine Breyley.   He trained at Battersea Training College London and obtained his first appointment at Brightling School in 1857.

William, wife Hannah (by now expecting their second child - Edith Eleanor who was born in June 1863)  and Alexander William travelled to Australia aboard the 'Tiptree' - a voyage that took 120 days.  William was engaged under Rev. Cannon White to take charge of the CofE School at Muswellbrook.  A series of promotions and transfers took William in 1882  to his final school at Emu Plains where he taught until his retirement in 1906.

Amongst William's children, three were to be pupil teachers, Walter, Herbert and Mary.

On the 26.2.1901 William sent a telegram "My daughter is dead at school house.  Kindly wire sanction to close school for the rest of the week that we may recover ourselves and restore house to proper condition."

William died 6th November 1917 at Kingswood Penrith (near Sydney).  Hannah died 15 December 1920 at Cootamundra, NSW.

Edith E married a John Smithson-Rayner (twin).  Their daughter Ruby was born 1901, Penrith NSW.  Edith died in 1901 - don't know whether this was childbirth or whether this is the death referred to in William's telegram. 

William's son Herbert John also died in February1901.

There is more information but think this is enough for now - really ought to be writing cards..... Wink

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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #69 on: Saturday 10 December 05 10:27 GMT (UK) »

WELL DONE, Helen, go to the top of the class Grin  That's really brought Hannah to life!  Looking like it was a subsequent generation of their's that went to NZ possibly carrying that sampler.
I will give a heads-up to John at Castle Combe museum as to these new developments.
Unbelievable, I was beginning to give up hope Cheesy  I'm off to try & find that 'Tiptree' passenger list.

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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #70 on: Saturday 10 December 05 11:19 GMT (UK) »

I am fairly sure Edith was the daughter who died in 1901, as Amelia died 1870, Mary married John Mcgrath in 1913 and Florence died 1878 so that leaves Edith.

Ernest was a tram driver, Herbert John listed as William Herbert John died 1901, Walter stayed in NSW with wife Amy. Edwin died 1872, Arthur died 1946 and Alexander married Alexandra and stayed in NSW.

Alexander and Walters families stayed in NSW.

Unaccounted for children then are Ernest who was still in NSW for 2nd marriage in 1932 and Mary McGrath .

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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #71 on: Saturday 10 December 05 11:24 GMT (UK) »

Well sone everyone, been following this amazing thread since the start.

"anyone got census access to Australia"
Helen

Cry Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but did Australia not destroy most of their census records...but I recall seeing somewhere that 1841 is the only one they have with a name index.  1891 and 1901 only the index of the Districts survive  Cry


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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #72 on: Saturday 10 December 05 11:42 GMT (UK) »

Found it Tiptree landed 14.1.1863 passengers Mr Bragley, Hannah and Alexd
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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #73 on: Saturday 10 December 05 12:47 GMT (UK) »

Fantastic - this is so exciting Grin Grin

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Re: An interesting story......
« Reply #74 on: Saturday 10 December 05 12:58 GMT (UK) »



Forget about the cards Helen ! - you can use "e cards" next week!!! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You have done a wonderful job! and kept on going - when we all sat back and watched !!! Thank you for the great information - now how did the sampler get to New Zealand??

Thanks again for a great productive thread you guys!! It's so exciting!!

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