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Jane Masri
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Story so far.
1838 Hannah WALLOP birth reg March quarter 1838 Chippenham (8 284) 1860 Married William BREYLEY Sep. quarter 1860 Chippenham (5a 69) 1861 census (7 April) both at School House, Brightling, Sussex 1861 birth reg of Alexander William BREYLEY Sep. quarter 1861 Battle Ssx(2b 43) 1862 Late 1862 left England aboard 'Tiptree', arrived Australia - 1863 January 14 1863 June, daughter Edith E. born Muswellbrook 1865 daughter Amelia A. born. Died 1870 Muswellbrook 1867 son Arthur E. born Muswellbrook died 1946 1869 son Edwin G. born Muswellbrook. Died 1872 1871 son Walter B. born Muswellbrook(later a teacher) 1872 William Breyley teacher at Brook St. Muswellbrook 1873 son Herbert John born Muswellbrook (later a teacher) Hanna's stepmother died in Castle Combe 1875 daughter Mary Agnes born Patricks Plain (later a teacher) 1877 daughter Florence A born Muswellbrook died 1878 Newcastle Hanna's father died in Castle Combe. 1878 William headmaster of Christchurch school Newcastle 1878-1882 1879 son Ernest A born Newcastle (later tram driver) 1882 William to Emu Plains school 1893 Son Walter B. marry's Amy Selway. Paddington 1900 son Herbert J. marry's Jessie M. Smith, Sydney died 1901 1900 daughter Edith E. marry's John S. Rayner, Penrith 1901 son Alexander W. marry's Alexandria Percy, Newcastle 1901 daughter Edith E. Rayner dies. 1906 William retires 1913 daughter Mary A. marry's John McGrath, Sydney 1917 William dies 1920 Hannah dies
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1863 - Edith E marry's but dies soon after. Any children? 1867 - Arthur E Does he marry, any children? 1871 - Walter B marry's any children? 1873 - Herbert John marry's, any children? 1875 - Mary Agnes Marry's, any children? 1879 - Ernest A Does he marry?
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Jane Masri
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Answering my own questions from last post.
Edith E. One daughter, Ruby E. Rayner born to John S & Edith E. 1901 Penrith Arthur E. No marriage found NSW 1875-1920. Died 1946, Penrith.
Walter B. Breyley & Amy Children. Walter died 1964, Bulli. 1893 - Dorothy Maud. Died 1937, Breyley so didn't marry. 1895 - Jessie. Died 1968. Bulli 1895 - Alice 1897 - Herbert William. Died 1949, Temora. 1900 - Gilbert W. died 1958, Wollongong. All born Narrandera Another son, Alexander John. No DOB but died 1942, Parramatta
Herbert John No children found NSW Mary Agnes. Possible McGrath children but searchable index only goes to 1905 & she married 1913 Ernest A No marriage record found NSW 1875-1920. Died 1950, Balmain. Alexander W Breyley & Alexandria children. Alexander died 1926, Penrith.
Naomi A. 1901, Wickham Lyall M. 1903, Wickham
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Jane Masri
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A little about the maiden voyage of the 'Tiptree" 1856. Hannah, William & Alexander travelled steerage.
The ss ‘Tiptree’, a vessel of some 1650 tons, belonged to London owners of whom Mr. R. Alexander was one of the principals. The builders of this ship intended her to be a model ship not only for sailing qualities but also for strength and capacity of passenger accommodation, and she was so named after a contemporary model farm owned by a Mr. Mechi, a wealthy agriculturist. She sailed under the flag of the White Star Line, a Liverpool company owned by Pilkington & Wilson, well known for their fleet of splendid ships.
The captain was a Mr. J. Pinel, and as this was apparently the maiden voyage of the vessel, there were many dignitaries including the owners, who boarded her on Saturday 19th September 1856. The saloon was a large one, beautifully arranged, and would be occupied on the voyage by thirty lady and gentlemen passengers. There was an unusual height between-decks, whilst down below was the steerage, comfortably holding about 300. In all, including second-cabin passengers there would have been 400 aboard. They assembled on deck and were medically examined, and all pronounced to be in good health. They were mainly English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish, with a few Germans and six Italians. At one o’clock they dined on meat, potatoes, biscuit, and soup which were evidently greatly relished.
At about 3 o’clock they gathered for prayers and hymn singing, followed by a sermon from the Reverend James Buck from Liverpool. The following day, Sunday, 20th they set sail. The weather was somewhat cold, but the air was still and during the morning they again gathered on deck for prayers and singing. At noon the guns announced her departure, and she left for her long voyage amid cheers from all aboard. I must say I admire James for his courage. I have been on a replica of the type of boat here in Liverpool, and I was not impressed. Conditions were exceedingly cramped from what I could see, and the lighting was provided by little more than flickering lamps. This was, of course, below decks. I am sure the first class passengers would fare much better. However, a journey by sea in the winter, lasting over three months, with a five-year-old and a seven-year-old, must have been horrendous.
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janan
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And Hannah must have been in early pregnancy Poor woman. Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Jaki
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This has been a v ery interesting thread. Think i may have found 2 marriages for Ernest A Breyley.
17817/1928 BREYLEY ERNEST A BALL ROSANNA W NEWTOWN 4499/1932 BREYLEY ERNEST A LEARING HENRIETTA SYDNEY
And also a death for Rosanna
20706/1929 BREYLEY ROSANNA W JOSEPH ISABELLA PETERSHAM
Maybe???
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OK Charles Henry Kingwell when did you arrive in Australia? Coates - Warwickshire, Staffordshire?? Hall - Warwickshire, Yorkshire Hirst - Yorkshire Kingwell, Bulley, Bunce - Devon Sample - Northumberland, Durham Shipp - Gloucester MacGillivray, Grant, Forbes, McBean - Scotland
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bwgan ceredig
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Can I just say that this is a fantastic thread. Mind you, having seen Rootschatters in action before I am not surprised at how successful you have all been 
I can't wait for the nest installment - way better than the soaps
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Stiff - Monmouthshire & Glos, Parry - Monmouthshire Stafford - Glos, Liles - Glos, Bright- Glos, Webb - Monmouthshire & Glos, Smart - Glos, Smith - Glos Sullivan - Ireland, Jones (oh dear! Almost as bad as Smith), Walker - Somerset, Llewellyn And, no don't laugh...Crump...I think it's great! And of course, if I ever do manage to do a successful look up it is crown copyright and all that legal stuff! Seriously Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Sueh2
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I'd just like to echo the sentiments already posted here about this being a fascinating thread...better than a soap or a good book that's for sure.
Rootschatters certainly know how to pull out all the stops, well done!
Sue
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 Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukE Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON. Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME Norfolk: TUCK Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.
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goggy
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To all concerned,an exceedingly brilliant finish,an excellent conclusion,a sparkling example of deduction and research. Vunderbar!Bravo!Encore! Goggy.
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Lloydy
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I couldn't put it better myself goggy!!!!!!
I'm amazed at all your detective work........looking forward to the next instalment 
Jan
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - originally from Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - originally from Worthen, Shropshire
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LouiseB31
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My only concern, as you narrow down the likelihood of who it was in the family that went to live in NZ, is that you will be drawn inextricably to one single descendant and that will be the culprit who threw our precious sampler in the skip!!
One day soon I think we will know that the person who chucked the sampler away is none other than Mr X Breyley or Miss Y Breyley and they will have to live with our all knowing about it for the rest of our lives.
It is like being on reality TV!
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Baldock, Benn, Millward, Harriman, Wilson, Hilton, Fairclough, Hadley, Bedford, Brady, Jutson, Sharp, Pinfold, Butler, Mottram, Upton, Daffern, Lister, Shellswell, Skelding, Wall, Scattergood, Ferguson and then his family - Lord, Machin, Gowling, Eckersley, Atkinson all from Manchester area
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