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pete edwards
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Hi all,
I wonder if some more experianced reader could help me out on a bit of writing,
!851 census Shropshire, Cound,
Thomas Edwards, ( is that 22 or 32 )
Charles " ( is that 32 or 34 )
ref H.01071990
The ennumerator has put his scribe through the ages,and I cant make it out,
best regards,
Pete.
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janan
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I'll go and have a look Pete
Cheers Jan 
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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PrueM
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Hi Pete,
I've had a look and I think Charles is 24 and Thomas is 22...but that first "2" in Thomas's age is a tricky one. Jan might have better luck trying to translate it. Have you looked in 1861 to see what the ages are?
Cheers
Prue
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BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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janan
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Afraid we're not helping much so far - I thought Charles 34, Thomas 32 
Prue's idea of finding them on another census sounds best idea.
Cheers Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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janan
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You win Prue  In 1871 they are definitely 44 and 41
Jan
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PrueM
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Excellent!
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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pete edwards
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Hi all,
Many thanks for your time and effort, in looking up the ages of Thomas and Charles, the dates seem to fit, Thomas was my gg grandfather b ab 1830 Cound, I have them on every census, from 61 on, so I bought the 51 census of Shropshire, found them but could not read the ages hence the request, on the 51 census it gives Thomases Parents as George 59 a/g lab, of Cound,
Sarah 59 of Cound, Every census gives georges birthplece as Cound, however try as I might, I cant find a George born in Cound in the given period,
This is my Brick wall, this is what I have found (although not proved )
Cound parish records.
12/march/1808 George Edwards & Sarah Rowe mar.
21/dec/1788 Sarah d of Thomas & margret rowe bap.
A kind reader done me a look up for Cound on the 41 census,
page 6 ho107/910/5
John Edwards 14 man servant born in county
Charles Edwards 13 man servant born in county
( for John Griffiths-farmer )
Coundmoor, page 19
George Edwards 50 ag/lab born in county
Sarah Edwards 50 born in county
THOMAS EDWARDS 13 ag/lab born in county
Mary Edwards 20 born in county
Margret? Rowe 80 born in county
Do you think in 41 they took in the old mother of Sarah?
The only birth I can find for George is,
Uffington par rec
24/dec/1786 George s of James Edwards & Jane, bap
Should I follow this line? or am I barking up the wrong tree ( pardon the pun )
Again thank you all,
Pete.
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janan
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Hi Pete
A few thoughts
The appearance of Margret Rowe with George and Sarah in 41 adds weight to you having the right baptism (and right marriage) for Sarah as does their having a son Thomas. If you can find a death for Margret her death certificate might well have Sarah of George as informant.
Re George. Assuming Uffington is near Cound it would be worth further investigating. George gives his birthplace as Cound in 51 so probably grew up there. Can you find deathes in Cound for his possible parents?
Also George and Sarah married in 1808 so there must be other children older than Mary - have you found any more? If there is a James or Jane amongst them that would make it more likely that you have the right George.
Cheers Jan
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pete edwards
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Hi Jan,
Much thanks for the info, being a bit green to the hobby, I would never of thought of looking for the deaths, ( do they do death certificates that long ago? )
Kind regards,
Pete.
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Lloydy
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Hope you don't mind me popping in here:
Assuming Uffington is near Cound it would be worth further investigating.
Uffington is approximately 9 miles from Cound.
I don't know if this helps or not 
Jan (the other one )
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pete edwards
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Hi Jan (the other one
The annoying part of my search is the fact that I only live about six miles away from where my genes to date came from, I live in Shrewsbury, Salop, my lot seem to originate from the surrouding villages,
Many thanks,
Pete.
p.s Ive got the Shrop par reg disc ( Heroford diocese ) here if you want a lookup.
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Lloydy
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Hi Pete
I live in Shrewsbury too!!!!!! Small world eh?
Which parishes are included on your disc?
Cheers!
Jan
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janan
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Hi Pete
Re certificates they started in 1837, so you'd be able to get one for Margret as she died sometime after 1841. Before 1837 it will only be parish record entries but by 1800's age at death is usually included.
Happy hunting
Jan
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pete edwards
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Many thanks Jan,
Pete,
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pete edwards
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Hi lloydy,
All of them in the Herford diocese, app 1530/1820 , ( although I do get confused trying to place the village to the parish ) 
Feel free to ask Iwill do my best at this end.
Pete.
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