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Simpson - census look up please 1871
« on: Friday 03 February 06 08:12 GMT (UK) »

Please does someone have time to look up

James SIMPSON ( b c 1842)who married Susan BEMENT ( b c 1847) in 1865
in cambridge.

looking for them in 1871 census,,, not aware of them having a family then.

I have them in 1881.

maybe you can find them before their marriages in 1861 census?

That would be so great, thank you.

regards

Ann Smiley
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Warwickshire: Husselbee, Willetts, Simpson, Hudson, Worwood, Weston, Moss
Worcester, Willetts
Cambridgeshire: Bartlam, Simpson, Graves, Radford.
Staffordshire: Weston, Bartlam, Worwood, Roberts
Wales: Roberts, (jones Ha Ha )
Lancashire and New foundland: Walmsley.
Ireland,Co Down, lemon: Co Mayo, Deane, Conway, Scanlan: Waterford, O'Hanrahan, Fitzgerald.
New Zealand: O'Hanrahan, Walmsley, Trapani ,Lemon. Pascoe
Australia: NSW: Lemon
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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 February 06 08:23 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ann  Cheesy  Cheesy

Is this him?

RG10/1586 105 20
Cambridge St Andrew the Less
36 Broad Street

James Simpson, head, 29, Coprolite Diggers, b. Hildersham Cambs
Susan, wife, 26, b. Cambridge
William J, son, 4, b. do.
Sophia, dau, 1, b. do.
George Mason?, boarder, unm, 22, Coprolite digger, b. Suffolk Howerden

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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 February 06 08:31 GMT (UK) »

And Susan before her marriage?

1851 (she's a servant in 1861)
HO107/1760 195 19
Cambridge St Andrew the Less
74 East Road

William Bement, head, 30, Hair dresser, b. Cambridge
Sarah, wife, 32, b. do.
Susan A, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
William, son, 3, b. do.
Mary A Hall, sister, unm, 16, General servant, b. do.
James Bement, son, 5mo, b. do.

I'm having trouble identifying James prior to 1871  Undecided

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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 February 06 08:34 GMT (UK) »

BTW - I see the Simpson children William J and Sophia are indeed with them in 1881!

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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 February 06 08:38 GMT (UK) »

I was lying when I said I couldn't find James pre-marriage  Wink

1861
RG9/1029 22 6
Hildersham, Cambridgeshire
Village

Jas Simpson, head, wid, 54, Ag lab, b. Hildersham
Lydia, dau, unm, 21, Housekeeper, b. do.
Jas, son, unm, 19, Ag lab, b. do.
John, son, 14, Ag lab Stable Boy, b. do.
Ann, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.

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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 February 06 08:42 GMT (UK) »

hi Tanja,


Thats them, great thank you, you were quick.

I have done as much as i can on the WILLETTS, till i get that marriage cert, so i thought i would work on the SIMPSONS while i wait. 

Plus i was missing you guys.

I am hoping that susans name is BEMENT. 

Still cant find william SIMPSON AND Harriet GRAVES marriage  c 1889.


Thanks again. 
Ann

Thanks again, fantastic.. i still have to look up the RG9, RG10 etc to see which year it is,  have to type it up and put it on the computer.  your wonderful.

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Warwickshire: Husselbee, Willetts, Simpson, Hudson, Worwood, Weston, Moss
Worcester, Willetts
Cambridgeshire: Bartlam, Simpson, Graves, Radford.
Staffordshire: Weston, Bartlam, Worwood, Roberts
Wales: Roberts, (jones Ha Ha )
Lancashire and New foundland: Walmsley.
Ireland,Co Down, lemon: Co Mayo, Deane, Conway, Scanlan: Waterford, O'Hanrahan, Fitzgerald.
New Zealand: O'Hanrahan, Walmsley, Trapani ,Lemon. Pascoe
Australia: NSW: Lemon
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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 February 06 08:44 GMT (UK) »

Nice to have you back on a search  Smiley - Have you noticed? I always put the year in bold before the reference  Grin

and 1851  Cheesy
HO107/1761 183 6
Hildersham, Cambridgeshire

James Simson, head, 46, Ag lab, b. Hildersham
Rhoda, wife, 46, b. Westwickham
Harriet, dau, unm, 22, b. Hildersham
Edward, son, 14, b. do.
Lydia, dau, 11, b. do.
James, son, 9, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 6, b. do.
John, son, 4, b. do.
Ann, dau, 7ms, b, do.

Tanja  Smiley
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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 February 06 08:46 GMT (UK) »

Hadn't Sue found a possible Simpson/Graves marriage  Huh
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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 February 06 08:56 GMT (UK) »

yes that y i could find william and harriet she was under GROVE,   Think i have been on the willetts to long,  glad you have a good memory.

Think i need to wear my glasses when reading,  Cool

Are you meant to be working?Huh?

Ann

your great thank you,, what will i do when i run out of family, have to find someone elses so i can talk to you.  Cheesy
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Warwickshire: Husselbee, Willetts, Simpson, Hudson, Worwood, Weston, Moss
Worcester, Willetts
Cambridgeshire: Bartlam, Simpson, Graves, Radford.
Staffordshire: Weston, Bartlam, Worwood, Roberts
Wales: Roberts, (jones Ha Ha )
Lancashire and New foundland: Walmsley.
Ireland,Co Down, lemon: Co Mayo, Deane, Conway, Scanlan: Waterford, O'Hanrahan, Fitzgerald.
New Zealand: O'Hanrahan, Walmsley, Trapani ,Lemon. Pascoe
Australia: NSW: Lemon
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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 February 06 08:59 GMT (UK) »

By 1861, William Bement has turned into a Shoe Maker and Primitive Methodist Local Preacher!
Children Sarah 14, William 13, Elider E (dau) 8, James G 4 and Mary Ann 2. Also Mary Hull, cousin, 47 b. Mddx London and a nursechild Eleanor Jennings age 4 b. Cambridge
RG9/1024 31 9

Tanja  Smiley

The work I'm supposed to be doing today is find something to feed my family on and things like that. We love hunting, but we can talk without doing searches too Cool

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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 February 06 09:03 GMT (UK) »

Thank you

i googled "coprolite diggers" as i had never heard of it, that was very interesting, not a job i would like.  Love finding out about there jobs and how they lived.

Kind regards

Ann
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Warwickshire: Husselbee, Willetts, Simpson, Hudson, Worwood, Weston, Moss
Worcester, Willetts
Cambridgeshire: Bartlam, Simpson, Graves, Radford.
Staffordshire: Weston, Bartlam, Worwood, Roberts
Wales: Roberts, (jones Ha Ha )
Lancashire and New foundland: Walmsley.
Ireland,Co Down, lemon: Co Mayo, Deane, Conway, Scanlan: Waterford, O'Hanrahan, Fitzgerald.
New Zealand: O'Hanrahan, Walmsley, Trapani ,Lemon. Pascoe
Australia: NSW: Lemon
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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 February 06 09:09 GMT (UK) »

nursechild Eleanor Jennings age 4 b. Cambridge


What does nurse child mean?Huh please..
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Warwickshire: Husselbee, Willetts, Simpson, Hudson, Worwood, Weston, Moss
Worcester, Willetts
Cambridgeshire: Bartlam, Simpson, Graves, Radford.
Staffordshire: Weston, Bartlam, Worwood, Roberts
Wales: Roberts, (jones Ha Ha )
Lancashire and New foundland: Walmsley.
Ireland,Co Down, lemon: Co Mayo, Deane, Conway, Scanlan: Waterford, O'Hanrahan, Fitzgerald.
New Zealand: O'Hanrahan, Walmsley, Trapani ,Lemon. Pascoe
Australia: NSW: Lemon
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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 February 06 09:19 GMT (UK) »

There are a few threads about nurse children on rootschat... somewhere  Tongue - it means foster child.




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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #13 on: Friday 03 February 06 09:24 GMT (UK) »

Me again.

the Bement family look confusing dont they  by 1861 it looks to me like sarah has died and may be the cousin mary Hull is there to look after the family,

do you think the dau susan in 1851 is the same sarah in 1861 if not where is susan gone.  and if james was 5 months wouldnt he be 10 yr Huh

oh dear..  where are my glasses,  Wink


kind regards

Ann

oh a foster child, thank you, i wouldnt have thought of that, i thought they were still breast feeding    Smiley  lol

and please what does BTW stand for?Huh
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Warwickshire: Husselbee, Willetts, Simpson, Hudson, Worwood, Weston, Moss
Worcester, Willetts
Cambridgeshire: Bartlam, Simpson, Graves, Radford.
Staffordshire: Weston, Bartlam, Worwood, Roberts
Wales: Roberts, (jones Ha Ha )
Lancashire and New foundland: Walmsley.
Ireland,Co Down, lemon: Co Mayo, Deane, Conway, Scanlan: Waterford, O'Hanrahan, Fitzgerald.
New Zealand: O'Hanrahan, Walmsley, Trapani ,Lemon. Pascoe
Australia: NSW: Lemon
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Re: Simpson - census look up please 1871
« Reply #14 on: Friday 03 February 06 09:41 GMT (UK) »

Trying to get my head around this.

Susan A is in service in 1861:
RG9/1023 47 1
Cambridge St Andrew the Less

Susan Bement, serv, 15, Servant, b. Cambridge

Head of household is Arron Barnes, Milliner & Draper.
 
Sorry for not posting the complete entry for the Bement family in 1861 earlier, here they are:
RG9/1024 31 9
Cambridge St Andrew the Less

William Bement, head, 40, Shoe Maker Primitive Methodist Local Preacher, b. Cambridge
Sarah, wife, 42, Shoe binder, b. do.
Sarah, dau, 14, scholar, b. do.
William, son, 13, scholar, b. Mddx London
Elider E, dau, 8, scholar, b. Cambridge
James G, son, 4, b. do.
Mary Ann, dau, 2, scholar, b. do.
Mary Hull, cousin, unm, 47, Lodger, b. Mddx London
Eleanor Jennings, nursechild, 4, scholar, b. Cambridge

I now see William and Elider are bracketed together and there's a comment in the margin which I can't read - Help needed !!!     
 
Hope this is a little clearer. The first James may have died...

Having a look at 1851 to see if I can spot Sarah ...

Tanja  Smiley

BTW = by the way 
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