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Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« on: Friday 03 February 06 22:59 GMT (UK) »

I have been stuck here a very long time so would be grateful if anybody has any ideas for the supposed Hertfordshire birthplace (2nd line down) for William Gulliver HEYDON bc1822-1829 (1851 census Margate, Kent HO107/1629 folio 187 page 15)

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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 February 06 23:27 GMT (UK) »

Hi Casalguidi  Smiley
Looks like Oxey to me , near Bushey.
Looks as if the enumerator had St Vitis Dance Huh
               
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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 February 06 08:37 GMT (UK) »

Hi Casalguidi

What a terrible scrawl! Shocked  If the county weren't Herts, I would say Oxford, but.....it is!!!

The only parishes that I can think of beginning with "Ox" in Herts are Oxhey and Oxlease.  I suppose it is just possible that the first letter is "A" or "D" but even then I am struggling to think of where it could be.  Perhaps someone else will have more luck.

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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 February 06 11:54 GMT (UK) »

I have been stuck here a very long time so would be grateful if anybody has any ideas for the supposed Hertfordshire birthplace (2nd line down) for William Gulliver HEYDON bc1822-1829 (1851 census Margate, Kent HO107/1629 folio 187 page 15)

Casalguidi

I'm sorry, I can't offer any useful interpretation except - have you found him on any other census? Were there any brothers and sisters (possibly born same place) that you could follow.

Good luck anyway,
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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 February 06 20:19 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.  Unfortunately William died just a couple of years after the 1851 census and the earliest sighting I have for him is late 1840s when he married his (local) wife in Kent.  I have a feeling that he may well have ventured down to Kent with the arrival of the railways mid 1840s - he was an ostler and ticket porter.  A number of parishes in the Oxney area have been searched for his baptism but that was some time ago - will have to get my old paper notes out to confirm which ones Roll Eyes

I, too, have thought about Oxfordshire - particularly Hethe - a GULLIVER (wife nee HEYDON) resident there at about the right time but Huh

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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 February 06 23:04 GMT (UK) »

This is probably way off but it's not Watford is it. Definitely looks like ford on the end.

Just a thought because of the railway connection & Watford Junction.

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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 February 06 23:39 GMT (UK) »

Funny you should say that Maddie.

Watford was the first thing I thought of when I looked at it, but after reading the other answers, I figured I was way off the mark.

Maybe we aren't really mad?

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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 February 06 13:09 GMT (UK) »

Hi Casalguidi  Smiley
Had a look at the actual 1851 census and It appears to be OXTON Kent, whish is only 11 Miles from Folkestone and 15 miles from Margate.

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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 February 06 13:56 GMT (UK) »

Sorry  Embarrassed
Meant to to type OXNEY, info is the same

I think the leg waxing   Cry got to me today  Shocked

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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 05 February 06 17:23 GMT (UK) »

Hi Casalguidi  Smiley
Had a look at the actual 1851 census and It appears to be OXTON Kent, whish is only 11 Miles from Folkestone and 15 miles from Margate.

                       Patricia  Smiley

Patricia

It may well be Oxton or Oxney, Kent.......but......the original document certainly seems to say Herts and not Kent.  Therein lies the problem surely. Undecided

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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 10 October 06 12:03 BST (UK) »

Have you considered that it is not Herts but "Heath" or "Hethe" in Oxford(shire)? I say this because in my wife's tree, there is a William Gulliver of Hethe (1803-1873) who married an Ann Heydon (1804-1874) in Oxford in Nov 1826. I have 9 children to this marriage with the first, John, arriving in 1828.
It's possible that she (ann) could be the (illegitimate) mother and that your William was "adopted" by William Gulliver (probably because he was the real father) but kept the Heydon surname. Food for thought eh?
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Re: Any idea of this Hertfordshire birthplace?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 10 October 06 13:35 BST (UK) »

Hi Philnw

Welcome to Rootschat Smiley

Yes, I have considered that he may well have been the son of the family you mention but I just haven't been able to find anything to prove it Sad

Furthermore, one of his grandchildren was named Vincent and, although not conclusive proof of a connection of course (Vincent appears in the Hethe family), it is not a name found in other lines of "our" family anywhere Undecided

According to William Gulliver HEYDON's marriage, his father was William HEYDON (occupation something like baker or butler - hard to read) but, of course, this was only the information given by WGH at the time.

I did have a look at the 1841 census but couldn't immediately see anything helpful/conclusive there either Sad

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