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Topic: Migration Workers 1860's from Norfolk to Yorkshire HALL & HOWMAN (Read 1366 times)
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rheme
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Hi Ombler
Have had to leave this thread for a bit - came back from holiday and my uncle had been to see a great aunt of mine and acquired a whole pile of old photographs, birth, marriage and death certificates as well as funeral bills, etc. all to do with another line of the family that ends up linking with the Howmans later on. Have been scanning all these in and updating the tree as my great aunt is keen to know her roots. Fortunately she also has a sister who is still alive and has even more information, however, is on holiday at the moment so when she returns my uncle will be visiting her also. 
The info on the two sons of Robert and Caroline is as follows:-
George Howman born 1875 in Sculcoates, Hull.
George married Louisa Brook born 1877.
Joseph Howman born 1877 in Sculcoates, Hull.
He died around 1922.
Joseph married Arabella Buttery b. 1877 from Rillington, Nr. Malton, Yorkshire.
Arabella died around 1960.
Joseph and Arabella married in 1905 (probably St. Marks Church, Hull).
Joseph and Arabella are my great grandparents.
When growing up George and Joseph lived at 17 Howards Row, Chapman Street, Hull.
If you need any more info just drop me a line and if I can help I will.
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Ombler
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Thanks. If you want the family any further back I have the direct line back to 1500, possibilities further back, but don't want to spoil the fun of the hunt!
Ombler
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Cremer,English,Howman,Langley,Doy,Nelson,Meck,Bailey,Winter (all Norfolk);Evill,Whitaker,Ledyard (Somerset/Wiltshire);West(Gloucestershire);Fenn (Buckinghamshire);Martin,Birkett,Haines (South London);Whiting,Ombler,Harper,Jordan,Harland (East Yorkshire);Bowlby,Haw,Farmery (N Yorkshire);Hayes,Garner,Allen,Gibbons,Dod,Warburton,Royle (Cheshire)
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bendywendy
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Hi Rheme and Ombler
Well I said some time back this thread would grow and grow. So fascinating how folk moved around and all the other bits of info as well makes the folk "come alive". Keep this thread growing you two.
Bendywendy
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HALL REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES LINCS.
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crete
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Hi There
I am a decendant of George Ainger Howman of Hull he was my grandfather, my mother and family still live in Hull, he was born George Ainger Howman 1908 and died 1942 of what I believe my mother said was TB, he married my grandmother, Mary Ann Veronica Armstrong in October 1929 they were both married from the same address, which at the time was 42 Sherburn Street Holderness Road this would have been unusual in them days and times. Any way they had four children Barbra Terry John and Carol. My grandmother always said my Uncle John was a twin, but died when she was 2 years old, this cannot be confirmed. Will hopefully fined something on this in the near future. My Grandfather had a brother I think called John and my grandmother had two sisters Elizabeth and Francis, don;t remember Elizabeth but remembered Francis when she came to visit from Australia, she was one of those who went over in the 50's and 60's she loved it never came back. My grandparents birthdays are George Ainger Howman 1908-1942 and Mary Ann Veronica Howman 1908-1982. Hope to be in touch soon with more information, I shall be visiting my family in January so will see what I can dig up then. Regards Crete
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crete
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Hi there again forgot to mention there was another daughter her name was Honor, and if you look back through all the information so far the names do repeat over the years, I myself in my family have members called Lydia, Francis and of course Honor, one of my sisters middle name is Mary. I have a cousin who called her son Russell Ainger. Regards.
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rheme
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Hi
Your George A. Howman (1908) is a descendant of George J. Howman (1875) born in Hull and who married Louisa Brook (1877).
I have George A. Howman (your grandad) as having three sisters Louisa, Charlotte and Leah.
George J. Howman (1875) - your great grandad - was brother to Joseph Howman (1877) (my great grandad). Both were born in Hull, however, their brother Robert James Howman (1866), sisters Charlotte Mary Ann Howman (1870) and Leah Howman (1872) along with their parents Robert Ainger Howman (1836) and Caroline Tungate (1841) are all from the Great Ryburgh area of Norfolk along with all their ancestors.
Regards
Rheme
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bendywendy
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Hi everyone,
Wow I cannot believe that this thread is still finding folk...but then I said it would, hope someone is collating all this info and then lodge the Tree with the Archives department in Hull, this is what history is all about, finding, helping and sharing.
Keep it growing you lot
Bendywendy
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HALL REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES LINCS.
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crete
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Hi All
Thanks for all information this is really good, also I if you are looking on the Hall side of your family I had a Great Aunt Elizabeth Howman, she married a Harold Hall they emigrated to Australia with her brother Alfred Ernest Howman and his wife Violet around 1948-1950.
Regards
Crete
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bendywendy
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Hi Crete
Harold Hall - where did he "come from" so to speak??
Thanks
Bendywendy
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HALL REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES LINCS.
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crete
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Hi There
Have'nt got all details yet, next time I speak to mam will see what else she can tell me.
Regards
Crete
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bendywendy
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thankyou, will await to hear with ernest.......us FH researchers are not very patient are we???
Bendywendy
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HALL REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES LINCS.
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crete
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Hi Bendywendy
Like the name by the way, spoke to mam today, she says the Harold Hall my Great Aunt Beth married was from Hornsea and he had three sisters who were all spinsters. Are you from the Howman side or the Hall side of the family.
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Crete
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bendywendy
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Hi Crete
My dau's choose the name !!!!!! along with my personal email address !!!!
I am from the Hall side, the Howman's just come to be on this board because of their migration from Norfolk and I must say is proving to be extremely interesting.
My Hall clan came from Norfolk mid 1860's and settled in Holme upon Spalding Moor, but they did move out of HOSM and into other areas.
Do you know the name of Harold Hall's father and where he came from??
Await your reply.
Bendywendy
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HALL REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES LINCS.
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crete
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Hi There
Will try to find out more when next speak to mam, I am from the Howman side but as you see my e-mail user name is also my home.
Regards
Crete
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Rena
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I just chanced upon this thread and stayed to read the absorbing facts. Coincidentally I was born and bred in Hull and my grandfather's ag. lab. family were originally from Norfolk but some (like yours) had to migrate in the middle of the 19th century. There's a website (below) which outlines the cause of the migration (war, bad harvest and overpopulation in Norfolk) and describes the feeing fairs which were held around Britain on Michaelmas Day. The same fairs were held across mainland Europe too. I can't find it now but there's a jpeg online of an annual labour fair/market held in Glasgow.
http://www.cambridgeshirehistory.com/People/agriculturallabourers.html
It was the normal custom for hiring to be done once a year, at Michaelmas (29 September), the place of hiring almost always being a country fair, or, less often, a market. The fairs were frequently called 'hiring fairs' (although other business and sales would also be transacted), and they were common throughout the county (eg. 25 were held in 1762). The labourers would stand on a platform, or in an enclosure, to be 'looked over by the prospective employers for features such as strength, general appearance and character (and, in the case of girls, probably their attractiveness as well!). They would then be questioned about their skills and abilities, their previous employment and their liabilities (which might well include wives and children
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