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Who do you think you are (5)
« on: Tuesday 07 February 06 21:13 UTC (UK) »

Who Do You Think You Are?



"Jane Horrocks is fascinated by the long line of indomitable working class women in her family past, but it is a 'black sheep' male ancestor and his expensive gift to his niece that makes for the most intriguing mystery of all....

Wednesday 8th February 9pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/wdytya_celeb_gallery_05.shtml
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Re: Who do you think you are (5)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 20:07 UTC (UK) »

Not long now... less than an hour.  Smiley Smiley

I hope Jane's family is as interesting as the others have been, but from the teasing insight it looks like it might be. 

Hope Paul E isn't getting too giddy about her "sexy voice".  Just think, Paul, a whole hour of her talking!!

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Re: Who do you think you are (5)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 20:32 UTC (UK) »

Family Ties on BBC 4 afterwards is a real treat too.

Anthony and Zoran's Big Adventure

"Though he is a Mancunian, Anthony Shelmerdine-Boskovic has some Serbian blood in him, and he is obsessed by that aspect of his family background. He worships his grandfather Zoran, and remembers the latter recounting the battle with the Nazis in Europe.

Unfortunately, Zoran passed away two years ago, having failed to make it back to the country he had to leave at the age of 17. So Anthony decides to make the trip for him, by taking his grandfather's ashes back home.."

Contains some strong language.
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Re: Who do you think you are (5)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 22:03 UTC (UK) »

I wish the BBC would give more information about where they get the information from.

I'm trying to find someone who emmigrated to Canada and was killed in a saw mill accident.  How would I find the ship he travelled on?

I don't think today's episode was as good as the others.  There were many branches left unreasearched.
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 22:09 UTC (UK) »

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Re: Who do you think you are (5)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 22:11 UTC (UK) »

I am glad you said that Andrew123.

Where was the proof?  Pure speculation - especially as regards poor little Thomas, who might have died of anything.

Is it good practice to construct your family tree based solely on the work of others?  (Although I am sure in this case they were well-researched).

Where were the certificates?

And as for JH nicking her poor parents' bed!  I have gone right off her!

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Re: Who do you think you are (5)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 22:18 UTC (UK) »

I really enjoyed Jane's quest. She got really got stuck into it.

We live in Bury, and Rawtenstall is the next village/town along (and yes it is pronounced "Rottenstall" locally!).

I thought Sam Horrocks was a star. He was dead excited to show her the coat of arms, and his box of Horrocks stuff. Let's hope we see him on RootsChat!

Jane said about the height of children working in cotton mills and how close the machinery would have been to their eye level, and how frightening it must have been. I'd neve thought of it like that. I also then wondered if the noise perhaps had a bearing on the local dialect due to hearing while working...

The big question lies in what happened to the other siblings that were disowned? I wonder if we can help?

Bravo!

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 22:22 UTC (UK) »

Did anyone wonder if Sarahs 2 younger brothers might have been her own illegitimate children?  Just a thought.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 22:37 UTC (UK) »

I enjoyed it, she came across as a right feisty little minx!  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 23:00 UTC (UK) »

I was surprised they didn't look to see if Sarahs father had married twice.......maybe I missed a bit!
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Re: Who do you think you are (5)
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 09 February 06 07:16 UTC (UK) »

I've got a "billiard marker"  - so I loved that bit, as I didn't really know what he did.  My Albert Alexander Bearman  is a billiard marker on the 1881 census at the "City and Counties Club" Peterborough.

Personally I was thrilled with the description the man gave.  I love it when someone less than respectable turns up.  Gives a bit of colour.

Yes ianfao, I wondered if the younger two siblings were in fact hers.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 09 February 06 07:20 UTC (UK) »

I enjoyed it, but It would have been nice to have known for sure what little Thomas died of and I would have loved to have known what happened to Sarahs other siblings. Its a big guess to say Thomas died of the effects of the cotton famine when at the same time my rural ancestors were losing far more kids than they did, hundreds of miles away. Likewise. We may be doing Sarah a disservice saying she cut her siblings out of her life when she married. She talked openly about 2 of her brothers, why not the rest. They could have all died.
    And they were so ashamed of poor Ernest. I think its great to have a colourful character in the family. You would think he was a mass murderer.
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 09 February 06 07:51 UTC (UK) »

I enjoyed it too, very different from the previous ones.
I was surprised they didn't order the certificate for Thomas' death, did they look for evidence of marriage or death, or census info for the missing siblings?
I wondered too about the younger siblings, remarriage possibly, or as ianfao said, they could have been Sarah's without some birth certs?Huh? we'll never know, but I liked Jane, especially how she got stuck into the census film reader, all that winding!
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 09 February 06 08:34 UTC (UK) »

So was I the only one shouting at the TV then 'get Thomas's death cert and you'll find out why he died'?

I quite enjoyed this episode although I felt they left a lot out as has been said before about the circumstances of Thomas's death and also what happened to the other siblings.

I liked Jane too, and funnily enough I wondered about the din in the cotton mills and the accents!

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Re: Who do you think you are (5)
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 09 February 06 09:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi
It was enjoyable but I felt all disjointed..... was not planned and thought about, Too many unanswered questions for me!
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