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help needed with name please.
« on: Wednesday 08 February 06 18:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have the marriage certificate of my Great Grandfather his mothers name was Mary Calashaw. I have tried for several years to find anyone else with that surname the only thing I can find is on the 1901 census

Mary ann callashaw brn abt 1892  rochdale stepdaughter
Patrick Callashaw brn abt 1889  rochdale stepson

They are living in Rochdale Lancashire with:

Leonard Thompson brn abt 1896 rochdale Son

Lillian Thompson brn abt 1893  rochdale daughter

Mary thompson brn abt 1856 Wife sligo ireland

William Thompson brn abt 1844 Kilkenny ireland

I dont't think this particular family has anything to do with me.

what I was wondering was is the Surname Callashaw Irish???


I just don't know where to look any help would be appreciated.

Thanks Lesley
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Re: help needed with name please.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 February 06 10:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lesley

I don't think that the surname Callashaw or Calashaw is an Irish one I'm afraid.

Have you tried all the sites I have listed at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,83852.0.html

They may reveal some occurences of the surname in Ireland.

You say that the only occurence of the name you can find is in the 1901 census - just to be clear for others reading this post, you are not suggesting this is the same Mary Calashaw you refer to as your great grandfather's mother.  Huh

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 February 06 10:19 UTC (UK) »

Incidentally, I've checked the image of the 1901 census and I'm sure the surname actually reads "Callaghan".

Is it possible the name of your great grandfather's mother is similarly mistranscribed - i.e. was she a Callaghan (which is definitely Irish!)?

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Re: help needed with name please.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 February 06 10:58 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for your reply. I found the Callashaw's on Ancestry and have since paid to look at the 1901 cencus on line and agree that it is probably Callaghan. I don't know if you are able to answer this question but , I paid for the extract marriage Certificate and it definitely says Callashaw presumably what I have is a copy of the original, so do you think I should still look for Callaghan?

This is a very difficult one I have made no head way in the five years I have been doing this. I have found my grt Grandfather on the 1901 census but for birth country it just says England.
The story we were all told was that Charles (my grt Grandfather)was the Black sheep of the family and he was kicked out by his father  he moved to Scotland and used his mothers maiden name as his Surname.
His parents were supposedly well to do quarry owners, but I do realize that some of the stories which are passed down through family's have been somewhat embellished, but it does leave me at a loss as to where to look.
I can't find a death for him in Scotland and wondered if perhaps he moved back to England. As far as I'm aware my grt Granparents didn't divorce but they parted company around the 1940,s.
any way sorry to go on thanks again for your reply.

Regards Lesley
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 February 06 11:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lesley

I think you should just keep Callaghan in mind as one possibility.  Names on any source can be incorrect in my experience.

You say that the story is that he (your great grandfather Charles) took his mother's maiden name.  Do you mean that Mary's maiden name was Callashaw (or whatever) and Charles became Charles Callashaw.  Or was that Mary's married name?

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Re: help needed with name please.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 February 06 11:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ticker

That is the confusing part ( that said its all confusing)
My Gran told me that after he was thrown out he moved to scotland and took on his mother's maiden name, but as I said the names on the marriage cert say father George Walton Mother Mary Callashaw. So did he not change his name or was his father really Callashaw an Mother Walton or is all a load of half truths and embelishments ??. I keep this lot on the back burner and now and again go and have a look at everything again.
There are so many places to look and new stuff coming up all the time I just keep hoping that one day somthing will just jump out and hit me as it has done with other mysteries in other branches of my family.
Anyway thanks for your suggestions I will keep looking.

Lesley
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Re: help needed with name please.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 February 06 12:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have the marriage certificate of my Great Grandfather his mothers name was Mary Calashaw. I have tried for several years to find anyone else with that surname the only thing I can find is on the 1901 census

Mary ann callashaw brn abt 1892  rochdale stepdaughter
Patrick Callashaw brn abt 1889  rochdale stepson


They are living in Rochdale Lancashire with:

Leonard Thompson brn abt 1896 rochdale Son

Lillian Thompson brn abt 1893  rochdale daughter

Mary thompson brn abt 1856 Wife sligo ireland

William Thompson brn abt 1844 Kilkenny ireland

I dont't think this particular family has anything to do with me.

what I was wondering was is the Surname Callashaw Irish???


I just don't know where to look any help would be appreciated.

Thanks Lesley

Would Mary and Patrick be the children of Mary Thompson and Step children of William? Was she married Twice? maybe she was Divorced from Geogre Walton and it was she who gave the children her maiden name?




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Re: help needed with name please.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 February 06 12:21 UTC (UK) »

Maybe she never married the father William Walton so the children always had their mothers maiden name?


Straw clutching here  Grin

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Re: help needed with name please.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 February 09 02:35 UTC (UK) »

My brother Frank Hanley used to work for the City of Rochdale. He lives there. Look him up in the phone directory. Tell him ya found out this info from the forum, let him guess that it was me, his brother who gave ya this tip.

He may be able to steer ya in the right direction of navigating how the City of Rochdale is organized when it comes to registering folk. I can't promise ya he knows a whole lot, but he's a good source to begin with,
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