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Topic: FAIRS fair? Where...1841 assistance please? (Read 145 times)
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keenbutconfused
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I have only been researching my family history for a short time - but have been so amazed at how helpful people are - I have also found a new relative, via genesreunited, who has a number of the same peope in her tree as me!
We've traced our respective Fairs lines of the family back to Joseph Fairs, who married Jane Brewis Dec 7th 1850, at the Parish Church, in the parish of All Saints, Newcastle on Tyne. They are both described as living in Byker at the time, although Joseph was born in Sheriff Hill (Gateshead) and Jane in Washington. Joseph's father was Thomas Fairs and is described as deceased on the marriage cert. Jane's father was George Brewis and is also dec'd by the date of the wedding.
What is curious, is that Joseph 'made his mark' on the certificate, so was presumably illiterate - also his father, Thomas, was described as 'Gentleman'.
In the 1851 census, Joseph and Jane are living in Sheriff Hill, Gateshead, Joseph aged 20, Jane aged 17 (with a visitor - John Winter, age 2???). Interestingly enough, the adjacent census entry is for a Widow - Mary Fairs, age 40, born in Colchester, plus children, Christopher 17, Elizabeth, 15 and Mary J, 12.
My new-found relation and I are curious to know more about Thomas Fairs, Gentleman and also whether this Mary might be his widow - if so, was it just her from Colchester, or are these the first non-native Durham 'Fairs' in our tree?
Can anybody help or point us in the right direction - I don't have access to 1841 census, I don't think. Any and all advice, info or amazing insights gratefully received....
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Joice, Coburn, Fairs - Easington, Durham villages, Jarrow, Hebburn, Monkwearmouth, Chester le Street, Gateshead, Haswell....she was only a coal miner's daughter (well, grand-daughter)
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Ecneps
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
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Hi,
Found them in 1841, looks as if the Mary you have in 1851 is the mother of Joseph, widow of Thomas. Some good sites to try are: www.familysearch.org where I found a marriage for Thomas Fairs to Mary Thomas 14 Nov.1831 All Saints Newcastle, and www.durhamrecordsonline.com where you may find a bit more, perhaps a burial for Thomas etc., and www.freebmd.org.uk for births, marrs, & deaths.
1841 census Sherriff Hill, Gateshead HO107/296/12 folio 14 p. 23
Thomas Fairs 45 Farmer Y (born in county)
Mary " 30 N (b.outside the county)
Joseph 11, Christopher 8, Elizabeth 6, Mary 3, William 8 months, all born in county.
Hope this helps, Barbara
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keenbutconfused
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Thank you for this - I've looked and failed at trying to find any information of where he might have been farming....does anyone have any ideas?? Or where could I try to find out? Would the marriage cert give their address back then? Would there be any possibiliyty of anyone looking it up for me, as I am in Lanacashire...happy to meet any expenses, naturally
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Joice, Coburn, Fairs - Easington, Durham villages, Jarrow, Hebburn, Monkwearmouth, Chester le Street, Gateshead, Haswell....she was only a coal miner's daughter (well, grand-daughter)
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Hi,
Civil registration started in 1837, so marriages etc before that are in Parish Registers, after 1837 you can look them up on the websites I've given you, perhaps if you found William's birth abt 1840 on www.freebmd.com or perhaps on the County Durham registrars site at www.durham.gov.uk and got his birth certificate it should show his parents full names, his mother's maiden name, and address. Durhamrecordsonline may have his parents' marriage details and children's baptisms - perhaps try those out yourself and then come back and give a shout if you need more help.
Barbara
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keenbutconfused
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Thanks for those suggestions - I've looked at Durham records online site, but it seems so clumsy to sign up for, as you can't do it online (I'm still new at this therefore haven't learned the art of patience! lol!)
I've not found William's birth anywhere yet, so think I will come back to them afresh in a couple of days, i think, and see what I can do - I really want to start to put a list of enquiries together for jaunts to records offices, so this can go to the top of the list!
Thanks for your help and suggestions
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