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Topic: strays on the canals (Read 5597 times)
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mrs noah
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I am interested in Canal Boatmen, The Staffs and Worcs canal, The Black country routes, and the Trent and Mersey Canal. Is anyone else interested? and if so, can we exchange information?
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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NEL
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Yes, I'm looking for Thomas Smith 1852 and Henry Smith 1830? both listed as boatmen, although later miners etc, census returns Hardingswood, Kidsgove, 1881 I have a few strays, you may have these alreay??? Nel
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Smith, Archer, Hilditch, Boulton, Boote, Wootton, Staffordshire and Cheshire
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mrs noah
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Hello/
Have you anymore info about the 2 men you are looking for?
I have only just picked up your querie.
The trouble is there a lot of Smiths about....
Mrs Noah
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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NEL
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Hiya, Thomas Smith was my GG Grandfather. He was born in Hardingswood, Kidsgrove. Hardingswood comes under Audley Parish but Kidsgrove is Tunstall so part of Stoke- on Trent. His birth, 1852/3 wasn't registered so I now have to look in parish records, not sure where to start? His father was Henry Smith ? born 1830 in Stoke, his mother was Caroline. In the 1871 census at Hardingswood, Thomas is listed with his parents and siblings, Daniel, Henry, Sarah, Alice, William and George. Henry at this time was a head boatman, no idea which company he may have worked for or name of the boat. Family rumour says they had a link with The salt mines in Cheshire.
Thomas wife was Sarah Archer whose father Samuel was also a boatman, they were from Odd Rode Cheshire. I have Thomas in 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901. Henry died 1883 -1901, is this any help. Do you need any info? Nel
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Smith, Archer, Hilditch, Boulton, Boote, Wootton, Staffordshire and Cheshire
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mrs noah
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Hi
Have been trying to decide just what it is you are asking for......... as you know who you are looking for and have found them on the census.
Hardings wood is near to Church Lawton and also Kidsgrove.
Perhaps you might find your Thomas registered there.
It is worth remembering that Canal Boatmen, if they lived on the boat were not keen to linger at any one stop and would only tie up and wait for a baby to be born before casting off again,,,hence a child born in Staffordshire might turn up as being baptised in Stourport!!!!!!
some times more than one child would be baptised on the same day....which complicates things.
They might be helpful also try looking in the will index.s some times you are lucky and find a will or an administration I have been fortunate on a number of occassions to have found a boatmans will.
The Stafford record Office will hold the PRs for Stoke area and the Record office in Chester will have the cheshire PRs.
Have found another Thomas Smith [not yours] marrying in 1865 a sarah Wilding in Middlewich.....
and a Thomas Smith dying in Middlewich in 1903 aged about 66.
I also have references to Archer in Kidsgrove and Archer and Smith in Odd Rode. If you would like me to send them to you i will.
You mention that Henry was sometimes associated with the salt trade.
Salt and midcheshire go together,
and many men worked down the salt mines or carried salt on their barges. Winsford and Northwich were very industrail in those days so Henry and his Family could have been involved in both types of work.
My canal boatmen worked on the Trent and Mersey, and the Staffs and Worcs taking goods from Runcorn to Stourport!!!!
Is this of any help?? Is there anything else i can say that might help you?
Mrs noah
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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mrs noah
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Hi
If you are on line ,,,,,,I am too .....
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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mrs noah
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What famillies did your Fletchers marry into?
which Canals were they on???
How does it connect to Wales? is it through the shroppie
Mrs N
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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NEL
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Mrs Noah, thanks for reply, I do have quite a lot of info but now looking for Thomas Smith baptism as birth not registered you're right could be anywhere. Clues so far St Thomas' Kidsgrove other siblings baptised there, ? in the Potteries info a little lacking on line!
Also looking for name of narrow boats they have worked on... Henry was a head boatman so must have been registered somewhere, just need pointers to the right place. Thanks Nel. I seem to keep missing you
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Smith, Archer, Hilditch, Boulton, Boote, Wootton, Staffordshire and Cheshire
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bobtonks
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My GG Granfather was John Tonks a Boatman
In 1887 his Grandson John Tonks (not my Grandfather) married Martha Smith in Middlewich
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mrs noah
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Hi.
Feb 14th 1887.
John Tonks and Martha Smith.I have the entry .
I have transcribed the Middlewich PR of all the Boatmen.
fascinating!
Presumably you have the entry or the certificate???
Mrs N
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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bobtonks
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Mrs N
I don't have the certificate and would appreciate any information you have. Do you know of any other Tonks boatmen?
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mrs noah
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Mrs noah
any chance of you answering my message... you did ask!
cheers cardiff
Yes I did ask you for the connections into the other boating families and I have been looking into my notes to see if I can find any Fletchers.
But with all things it takes time.
Sorry!!!!!! please be patient!
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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