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Topic: strays on the canals (Read 5656 times)
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mrs noah
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Mrs N
I don't have the certificate and would appreciate any information you have. Do you know of any other Tonks boatmen?
Hello.
St Michael and All Angels Middlewich.
the entry reads as follows.
1887
Feb John Tonks 26 Wdr Boatman Middlewich
14th. Martha Smith 18 sp Newton
William Tonks Boatman
Thomas Smith Boatman
By Banns.
Witness George Rowley
Sarah Brooks.
He didn't sign the register
she did sign the register.
will look for any more entries, this weekend.
Mrs N
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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mrs noah
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Fletchers of Cardiff.
have looked in my notes and I find no sign of Fletchers. Which doesn't mean there aren't any ..just that I haven't got them.
If they were all in Wales they are most probably married into the local community there.
Bob Tonks.
Hi!!
Have found 2 more marriages for you....
both in Odd Rode Parish Church.
They are both in the 1900's........which is getting a bit late ....but here they are
1905
May Frederick Escourt 22 B Boatman Thirlwood
22 Selina Tonks 18 s Thirlwood
George Escourt Boatman
John Tonks Lockkeeper.
Witness Henry Harrison
Elizabeth Harrison
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1907
April John Tonks 45 Widower Canal Labourer Thirl'd
8 Rachel Done 34 Widow Thir'd
William Tonks Boatman
Samuel Simms Collier.
Witness Edwin William Ashbury
Nancy Ashbury.
Anoth wedding in 1906 has
John Tonks and Martha Tonks as Witness.
any help??
mrs N 
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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bobtonks
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Ref John Tonks
Thanks for the info. Very interesting. A Martha Tonks died in 1906 , Sandbach. This could be John's third marriage. Finding any children should be fun. I found John Tonks 1899 but that is all so far.
Is John Tonks, Lock Keeper, him. He appears to have moved from boatman to lock keeper to canal labourer. All those women in his life took its toll.
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mrs noah
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Hi Cardiff.
I never forget anyone! It is that sometimes I take a bit longer than I like to reply. 'tis life you know!!!
I have looked in my notes and the only Fletchers I have found are
RG11/2696. [1881 ]
I found this in Hanley Library ages ago.
Boat....no name....
Charles Fletcher H M 57 Boatman Salop Bridgenorth.
Mary A w M 57 B Wife Staffs Dudley Port.
Jane d Um 16 Staffs West Brom:
Ellen d Um 12 Staffs West Brom
Mrs N
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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bfg
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Hello,
How do you know where to start looking with canal families. My mothers maternal side of the family were boat people many years ago. I've been able to trace my great grandmother(Hannah Prudence Jones born 12/5/1872 at Etruria Wharf,Shelton,Stoke on Trent)parents Abel Jones-boatman and Sarah Jones nee Jasper. I found the marriage cert of these in 1864 in Dudley and Abels father is George Jones-boatman whilst Sarahs father is John Jasper - banksman? I can't find them(Abel&Sarah) in either the 1871 or 1881 census and Hannah Prudence is only found in 1890 when she marries before dissapearing from the 1891 census. Would it be common for boaties not to register. I would like to find them and their named barges someday but where to look I've no idea.
Regards
Brian. 
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Irish surnames:Gray,Burke,Kinneally,Flannery,Regan. English surnames:Wellington,Duffield,JacksonAlcock,Jones.
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TWIGG
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hi
i wonder if anyone came across the twigg family thy were all boatmen on liverpool/leeds i am looking for george twigg 1800? married to a elizabeth ? i have there sons baptisum records but no birth so i carnt go on looking for elizabeth
regards twigg
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mrs noah
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Hello Twigg.
I have just seen your post and thought I would reply to you..
You have more than likely progressed since you sent the message but here goes.
How do you know about George Twigg? you have question marks against his name, also Elizabeth.
in 1800 there were usually only baptismal records no birth entry, that only came later so unless you can find the marriage of George to Elizabeth things will not be easy.
Usually but not always Boatmen had their own special Church that they would try to return to for baptisms etc do you have any idea where your Twigg Family stopped off whilst on their journeys??
Try and make a map of their movements and build up a picture of them.........
What happened to the boys did they survive ??
and what end of the Leeds Liverpool are you standing at  ?
Look at the whole picture...........
Good hunting
Mrs Noah
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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TWIGG
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hellow mrs noah
thank you for your email
heres what i have
my father and his family were boatmen
william was my grandfather dob 1882 married florance ashley in runcorn in 1902
his father was john dob1855 married jane elizabeth smetham in runcorn 1877
on the marrage records his father was george twigg boatman
i have john on st marys register baptism register wolverhampton father george mother elizabeth along with a james 1851 lived 5 days and brother james twice ,1857 both sons of george and elizabeth
will this help as i have tried to get the birth records but no matches kind regards twigg
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TWIGG
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sorry mrs noah
i am standing the liverpool end
twigg
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mrs noah
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Hello Twigg.
Since writing to you, last night i have seen the correspondence on the other board.
So thankyou for replying to me. I will get back to you when I have digested your information and see what i think..........I come from Wolverhampton although have lived in North West for years, so know that part of the world! My Canal Boatmen travelled all over the network and it has taken me years to find them, and some I am still looking for! So will get back to you asap.......
Mrs Noah.
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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mrs noah
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Hello Twigg.
I have been trying to find some reference to your Twigg family and have had hardly any luck at all,they certainly knew how to avoid being documented.
I found some of the Wolverhampton entries and would suggest that you went to Stafford Record Office and had a good look at the Census returns.
Also I looked in the bmd records of Cheshire and found that a lot of 'Twigg' people use Holy Trinity Church in Runcorn, and I found the entry for your William Twigg to Florance Ashley.
BUt
when I checked the marriage of John to Eliza in 1877 I found that John was the Smetham and that Eliza was the Twigg, in which case you need to go back and double check your findings.
It seems most probable that the Twigg family like so many of the canal Boatmen and their families were shy of the law and did everything they could to hide from it, by not registering their babies or being on census or not getting married. You will probably spend the rest of your life walking the canal tow paths looking for them ......so join the club!! I have been a member now for 20 years!!!
Good hunting
Mrs Noah.
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On the canals...Turton, Wood, Mann,Cartwright, Neale, Grainger, Littlemore, Taylor. etc
Black country ancestors.... Beesley, Tranter, Fellows Barker, Perry, Evans, Glover.
also researching Birtwisle and Darby.
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shelleyfamilyhist
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Hi guys
new to this,so you'll have to bear with me
i have 4 generations of boatmen in my family tree,by the name 'Wright', and all have links to Tipton, Toll End Road.
William Wright 1875-1918, Boatman, married Mary-Ann Bailey in 1892, Tipton
daur Bertha Wright (my great grandmother)
-Son of-
John Wright 1845-abt 1918 Boatman, Married Elizabeth Ralph (father John Ralph, Boatman)
John was born in Stanton, Derbyshire. Censuses show him living in Toll End 1881-1901
-son of-
William Wright 1823-1889 Boatman, Married Maria Currey Wagstaff in 1846, Tipton (Parents James Wagstaff and Mary Currey, Boatman)
William was born in Stourport in 1823, along with 5 other siblings,yet none are shown on familysearch.com- i have copies of baptisms.
Both are buried in Tipton Cemetery, Spent their later lives at Toll End again
-son of-
Thomas Wright and Sarah.....
This is where i hit my dead end.All 6 children are baptised in Stourport
John Wright, 1821
William Wright, 1823
Benjamin Wright, 1825
Sarah Wright, 1827
Elizabeth Wright, 1829
Samuel Wright, 1834
All are extremely patchy on cesuses, but i cannot get the wright line in Stourport any further back.I know there are another 5 Wright families Baptised in Stourport, But none are Boatmen, and none seem related.Can you or anyone else help??
If not, i hope some of the info i have collected can help others.Other Boatman names i have linked to my Wrights are:
Ashley
Ralph
Diggory
Beresford
Nixon
Whitehouse
Broughton
Hope i can help someone, even if they cant help me
thanx
Stuart
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