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Missprim
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Hi,
Further to Midmum's posting last night. It looks like the Phillimore transcribers had a sightly differnet interpretation of Anne's name in 1701. They have it as "WILER" whereas I (and the Mormon's) transcribed it as "WYLS".
William EDLIN and Lucy MOSS are, I believe, part of my branch of the family. I have census returns for them, baptisms for their children and burials for all. Sadly none of their children seem to have survived into adulthood. William appears to be the son of John EDLIN and Jane KIRK baptised at Honington 11 March 1768. His older brother Bartholomew is my direct ancestor.
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behindthefrogs
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It would appear that the Sarah Edlin who married Richard Lowe could well be the daughter of Robert and Sarah Hutchin. It is interesting that in the 1851 census her nephew John (son of brother Robert) has an apprentice Cordwainer Robert Lowe.
Does anyone have any thoughts about the Richard who married Elizabeth Elitt. It is interesting to contemplate that she might be related to Elizabeth Allett who married Robert Edlin.
One aside about the varying spellings of Edlin I suppose that most of you realize that the "g" after an "n" in those days was silent and just caused the"n" to be harder and thus the last syllable more dominant. To sound the g as we do today in words that end in "ing" they added an extra "e" and so the word was written "inge"
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Missprim
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Hi,
In my Lincolnshire FHS index Elizabeth's name is ELLIOTT rather than ELLIT.
I have some MAPLETOFT (parents John & Ann) baptisms at Grantham 1808-1817, John's occupation in the later ones is given as woolcomber. Interesting as I think some of the earlier EDLIN family at Denton may have been weavers.
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midmum
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hello,
the marriages were all fron the IGI, mo 11242,
Heather
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Leics: Edlin, Isam, Wright, Wesson Notts: Smith, Hughes. Lancs: Dobbin, Rowlinson, Marr, Povall, Hall, Halliwell Berks/ Sussex: Dearlove, Carter, Marchant. census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Missprim
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Hi Midmum
I've just tried your reference number in Familysearch & guess what!? I had three marriages appear John MARTIN & Susana EDLIN and Robt EDLIN & Ann WILER as we already knew but to my surprise there was also
Thomas QUININGBROW & Jane EDLING 2 May 1671 Grantham 
Now I will REALLY have to have another look at Grantham registers.  They were very awkward in my own fiche reader as the pages have been printed sideways on the fiche. It is a lot easier if you have a reader with a large plate so that the fiche can be placed short ends front and back.
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midmum
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Hello,
I was very surprised to find the qiningbrow marriage because the search engine didn't throw it up, I did a trawl through the batch.
From Phillimores:
Great Gonerby.
Mr Richard Quinborough & Mrs Faith Bayte 15 Nov 1636
Thomas Quininbouro of Grantham & Borothy Kirke of Allington 21 Oct 1703
Have some Edlinson marriages from Addlethorpe as well.
At some point in history wasn't it common for children to take their mothers name as a surname?
Heather
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Leics: Edlin, Isam, Wright, Wesson Notts: Smith, Hughes. Lancs: Dobbin, Rowlinson, Marr, Povall, Hall, Halliwell Berks/ Sussex: Dearlove, Carter, Marchant. census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Missprim
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Hi
There are EDLINGTON baptisms & burials etc. at Denton. Have wondered if the name was used interchangeably with EDLIN.
I have some HIGGINBOTHAMS (& var.) in Nottinghamshire late 17th and early 18th century who use HIGGINS as though it were the same name.
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behindthefrogs
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It is a distinct possibility that Edling and Edlington were interchanged.
I have a tree for the Berkshire branch where Edling, Edelen and Eggleton were interchanged even by the same members of the family. It took them two generations for at least one branch to change from Edlin to Eggleton between 1750 and 1810
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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midmum
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Hello,
I have come across a marriage for an Elizabeth Edlyn and a Robert Burden 17 Feb 1574 at Knipton. This is slightly different to the one on Davids document page 1. But if you look at the info in the will of John Edlynge he mentions an Elizabeth Burday.
Burday and Burden may be the same. Either this means that John and Emma were married or some other relationship between John and Elizabeth. Has any one any thoughts? David would you be able to provide the references for the will so that I might obtain a copy please? Have you updated the document recently?
thanks Heather
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Leics: Edlin, Isam, Wright, Wesson Notts: Smith, Hughes. Lancs: Dobbin, Rowlinson, Marr, Povall, Hall, Halliwell Berks/ Sussex: Dearlove, Carter, Marchant. census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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behindthefrogs
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Sorry that list from wills on my first page is something I picked up many years ago and it took me a long time to work out that some of the dates were probably deaths and so the data probably came from wills. I don't have the origin but recorded them because I thought they might be useful.
I suspect that in some of the cases "b" stands for burial rather than birth.
However it does seem possible that you have identified John with wife Emma and that John died first. I am not aware of the will of John to which you are referring and I would be very interested to see a copy. Does he mention a wife? It was unusual in those days for a married woman with a living husband to have a will.
Have you managed to get anywhere with the Richard Edlyne (1612) will that you mentioned previously. I can usually get something out of secretary hand as long as it isn't in latin as well.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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midmum
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Hello David,
I am sorry you haven't got the source for the John Edllyne will on page 1 of your document as it would be useful but I will see what I can unearth. The Richarde edlyne will was being reviewed by Diana not me and I am sure she will let us know when she has interpreted it. You did't say if you had produced a more recent revision to your document which would be interesting. I will see what else I can find out re the Edlingtons.
Heather.
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Leics: Edlin, Isam, Wright, Wesson Notts: Smith, Hughes. Lancs: Dobbin, Rowlinson, Marr, Povall, Hall, Halliwell Berks/ Sussex: Dearlove, Carter, Marchant. census info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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behindthefrogs
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Sorry I seem to have left my brain behind when I made yesterday's post. I will check my document and then send out an updated copy to everyone over the next few days.
There are one or two issues which have been discussed on this thread which need to be reflected.
Yesterday I hadn't worked out that you were connecting two paragraphs in my document and hence my strange response. Thinking about it I should have a reference to that will somewhere but it isn't in the file where it should be.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Missprim
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Hi everyone,
I have a few more twigs to add to the Lincolnshire branch of the family. I was just wondering if there was anything interesting at Little Ponton apart from the two marriages we already know about. So had a look at the micro-fiche of Little Ponton PR I have here and found two baptisms for the children of Edward EDLIN and Jane KIRK (m 1747) Ann EDLIN born 23 April 1783 baptised 27 April 1783 and Lucy EDLIN baptised 27 November 1791. Looked for but didn't find burials for Edward and Jane before 1812.
Ann EDLIN married John MAPLETOFT at Grantham 23 April 1807 and (from an index) Lucy EDLIN married Robert LLOYD at Little Ponton in 1818. (My fiche only go to 1812!) I've found children's baptisms (IGI) and burials for Robert & Lucy (NBI) + censuses all at Barrowby but will check the PR detail at Lincoln one day later this week.
David - hopefully you will receive an e-mail about Richard EDLYN'S will (1612) sometime tomorrow evening but I can tell you now I think it is looking good!!
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behindthefrogs
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Hi Diana are you sure about those two new baptisms?
I am confused. I thought it was John Edlin who married Jane Kirk in 1747. John was 26 when married and Jane presumably only a few years younger. These were presumably C of E baptisms and so child baptisms which is supported by the dates of their marriages.
That would mean Jane had these two children ar the age of 58 and 65. Could it be that their son Edward (1755) married a Jane?
Am I confused or have you found another family?
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Missprim
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Hi David,
Yes I found it confusing at first - John EDLIN (1721-1794) married Jane KIRK 15 Nov 1747 at Little Ponton. Their son Edward EDLIN (1755-? ) married Jane KIRK 18 Dec 1780 at Little Ponton. These latter two are the parents of Ann and Lucy. And before anyone asks I couldn't find any other baptisms in between - if there were any children then they were either not baptised or the baptisms took place elswhere.
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