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Topic: Cyril (Ronnie) Middleton and John Middleton (Read 258 times)
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deb usa
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Hi Achiever
I was very excited to see the Middleton name on the boards...as I am one myself.
I have Middletons but they are all in the Devon area. I even have a Cyril Middleton b 1912 but his dad was Wlliam Skinner Middleton.
Before that they all were from Tiverton and Silverton and Rewe areas.
Does this connect to your family in any way??
if not ,,,i wish you luck with your search
regards
Deb
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penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
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Hi Deb,
Another Middleton, many of them, but unfortunately I don;t think this connects with mine.
I do not have much information about my father Cyril (Ronald Middleton), except his first wife's name was Rosemary, his fathers name was Johyn, my mothers name was Bruna. If you get any other info that might connect with mine please let me know! Thanks I need some luck!!!
Yvonne
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Mentessi, Middleton, Pees, Francioni, Gardiner
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suzard
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Do ypu have your father's marriage cert? That should give his father's occupation.
There is a marriage reg Mar qtr 1899 Shardlow dist (covers Long Eaton)
on same page
John George Middleton
Clara Bendall
Mary Jane Wilcox
1901 there is a John Middleton , wife Clara -children William, Edith, Horace in Church Greasley Swadlincote
There is a birth reg Cyril Middleton Dec qtr 1910 Sheffield dist
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Birth reg Cyril Middleton Dec qtr 1911 Sheffield dist (mothers maiden name Street)
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Death reg Sept 1994 Leeds dist Cyril Middleton (b 14 Oct 1911)
Do you know when/where your father was born/died?
Did he have any siblings??
Any scrap of info could help find his family.
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hi there,
Many thanks for the information, there may well be a connection here. These dates are definitely what I am looking for. If this John is the father of Cyril!! My info is marriage certificate he used the name Richard Peter Middleton, married my mother Bruna Maria Mentessi 11 January 1942, aged 29 yrs, occupation constructional engineer LPTB. His father is named as John deceased and occupation constructional engineer. My birth certificate he used the name Richard Ronald, occupation electrical engineer. Although name is actually Cyril Ronald, an electrician! He was living and working in the City of London in 1941 when he met my mother. I have been told he was born in Long Eaton but cannot verify this, also told Derbyshire, he lived in Loughborough and leicester at various times. My mother told me he had children with his first wife Rosemary. He was prosecuted for bigamy. An interesting character but I can get no further. The dates you give me tie in with mine. Many thanks.
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suzard
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It may be worth finding marriage cert to Rosemary to check name of his father?
By the way -Long Eaton isin Notts and Derbys!!!
Strangely I have someone in my tree from Long Eaton area-Jim Chapman -real name Albert Darby!!!! Wonder if he and Cyril Ronald knew each other? LOL
Good hunting,
Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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suzard
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There is also a family in 1901 living in Ilkeston Derbys (Long Eaton approx 6 miles from Ilkeston ) Henry John Middleton 29 b Cambridge -occupation Carpenter and Joiner Wife Sarah A B Lincs-5 children b Ilkeston-their son is John H Middleton age 11 (possible father?? he would be abt 22 when Cyril was born ??
I would try 1837online -its a pay per view site -but if you could find Cyrils birth it would alos give his mother's maiden name
His marriage to Rosemary-if you find a marriage -assuming he married age 20 plus- for Cyril Middleton it will give his wifes surname -you can then check marriages in corresponing quarter year for that surname and see if its a Rosemary-should have the same ref no .
How do you know his name was really Cyril Ronald?
If he was a bigamist and there was a court case then maybe those records would give more info about his first marriage.
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CatOne
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I have Middletons in my tree too, starting in Staffordshire, working mainly as Blacksmiths, travelling up through Derbyshire and some ended up in Lincolnshire, while others went to Yorkshire. I dont recognise any of the names so far, but just wanted to note my interest in this post in case some familiar names crop up :-)
Catherine
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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire Shaw, Marland - Lancashire Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland Richards - Neath Swansea Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Hi,
I have looked on England and Wales Death index 1984-2004 -there is a big gap from where FreeBMD have got up to and this index-but have listed one's who are possibilities(assuming he died after 1984 of course!)
Cyril Middleton b. 14 Oct 1911 d. age 82 Sept 1994 Leeds Vol B5C pge 96
Cyril Middleton b.19 Sept 1913 d July 1990 age 76 Carlisle Vol1 Pge 232
Cyril Middleton b 16 Dec 1909 d age 88 Dec 1998 Sheffield Yorks Vol B62A pge 298
These may be of interest - ii he stayed in London he may have changed name again!!!!
Ronald George Middleton b 31 July 1913 d. age 85 Apr 1999 Westminster London Vol D43C
Ronald Cecil Middleton b 16Sept 1899 d age 84 July 1984 Waltham Forest London Vol15 Page 552
If 1st wife never remarried -these may be of interest
Rose Mary Middleton b 28 Aug 1912 d age 82 Nov 1994
Basford Notts/Derbys Vol Vol C26B page 205
Rosemary Allison Middleton b 22 July 1920 d age 78 Oct 1998 Nottingham Vol B65A Page 233
If I find anything else I will let you know -
Will try to look up baptisms in Long Eaton when I get to matlock, but it may be a month or more!
You could put on Look up Requests for a baptism of Cyril Ronald Middleton in Long Eaton area-and of any children baptised father John Middleton in area 1900-1915
Good Hunting
Suz
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